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    Re: Obama's FY 2012 Budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Uhhh... couvetousness is the synonym for avarice, who's definition is "extreme greed".

    Covetousness Synonyms, Covetousness Antonyms | Thesaurus.com
    That does not matter since one of the actual definitions of covetousness is ...

    covetousness
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    cov·et·ous (kv-ts)
    adj.
    1. Excessively and culpably desirous of the possessions of another. See Synonyms at jealous.
    While there is another definition that state...

    2. Marked by extreme desire to acquire or possess: covetous of learning.
    So, we learn, that in this word, the term can be used for greed and also it can be used for wanting the possessions of others.

    This can be verified by looking at the definition of greed ...

    greed (grd)
    n.
    An excessive desire to acquire or possess more than what one needs or deserves, especially with respect to material wealth: "Many . . . attach to competition the stigma of selfish greed" (Henry Fawcett).
    Which more or less matches definition #2 of covetousness.

    However, greed's definition does not match #1 of covetousness, so they are not fully interchangable words, only partially. Ultimately, this means that barb misapplied the term.

    its much easier to know what a word means if you look at its definition rather than using a thesaurus.

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    Re: Obama's FY 2012 Budget

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    That does not matter since one of the actual definitions of covetousness is ...



    While there is another definition that state...



    So, we learn, that in this word, the term can be used for greed and also it can be used for wanting the possessions of others.

    This can be verified by looking at the definition of greed ...



    Which more or less matches definition #2 of covetousness.

    However, greed's definition does not match #1 of covetousness, so they are not fully interchangable words, only partially. Ultimately, this means that barb misapplied the term.

    its much easier to know what a word means if you look at its definition rather than using a thesaurus.
    Dude. Symantics. It means the same thing. Who cares if it's defnition #1 or defintition #2, partially or other wise. It's also much better to know when to not argue than to look silly arguing partial definition #1 vs definition #2. If you want me to provide like a bunch of links that show your wrong, I will. Do you really want to go there?
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    Re: Obama's FY 2012 Budget

    Back in the '80s the president's budget each year was DOA at capitol hill. Seems like old times.

    The president offered a middle-of-the-road budget plan with more than a trillion dollars of cuts over the next decade. This plan doesn't begin to address the structural deficits that the Bush years produced.

    On the other hand, it didn't much matter what Obama offered, the Republicans would have been critical. Now it's the House G.O.P.'s fractious caucus' turn and from what we've already seen of their budgetary ideas they will offer a budget so radical in its breadth and depth that the American people will find comfort in Obama's same old, same old.

    The only approaches that have realistically addressed the challenges that America faces going forward have resembled the presidential debt commission plan: encompassing wide ranging budgetary, entitlement and tax policies reforms. The rough formula has been two-third spending cuts, one third tax increases.

    Until the adults get in a room and settle on a comprehensive plan, there seems little point in participating in this mud fight which is more about the next election than it is about governing the nation.
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    Re: Obama's FY 2012 Budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Back in the '80s the president's budget each year was DOA at capitol hill. Seems like old times.

    The president offered a middle-of-the-road budget plan with more than a trillion dollars of cuts over the next decade. This plan doesn't begin to address the structural deficits that the Bush years produced.

    On the other hand, it didn't much matter what Obama offered, the Republicans would have been critical. Now it's the House G.O.P.'s fractious caucus' turn and from what we've already seen of their budgetary ideas they will offer a budget so radical in its breadth and depth that the American people will find comfort in Obama's same old, same old.

    The only approaches that have realistically addressed the challenges that America faces going forward have resembled the presidential debt commission plan: encompassing wide ranging budgetary, entitlement and tax policies reforms. The rough formula has been two-third spending cuts, one third tax increases.

    Until the adults get in a room and settle on a comprehensive plan, there seems little point in participating in this mud fight which is more about the next election than it is about governing the nation.
    LOL, so it was Bush's fault that Obama has had three straight years of trillion dollar deficits and a fourth upcoming? Unbelievable, obviously you are from San Francisco, out of touch with reality. keep buying the Obama rhetoric and paying the price in your own credibility.

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    Re: Obama's FY 2012 Budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    LOL, so it was Bush's fault that Obama has had three straight years of trillion dollar deficits and a fourth upcoming? …
    Bush inherited a balanced budget tending towards surplus. In his time in office, he doubled the national debt. Obama inherited structural budget deficits as far as the eye could see and an economy experiencing the worst downturn since the Great Depression. Yes, I blame the Bush years.
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    Re: Obama's FY 2012 Budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Bush inherited a balanced budget tending towards surplus. In his time in office, he doubled the national debt. Obama inherited structural budget deficits as far as the eye could see and an economy experiencing the worst downturn since the Great Depression. Yes, I blame the Bush years.
    No, Chappy, Bush didn't inherit a balanced budget or the debt wouldn't have gone up. You keep buying the rhetoric thus my statement that the rhetoric destroys your credibility. Presidents cannot spend a dime that the Congress doesn't approve and from 2007 to the end of his term it was a Democrat Congress. What did Democrats do to cut what you claim to be Bush deficits? By the way deficits are yearly and in the last 4 years of Democrat Control the debt went up over 5 trillion dollars, hardly Bush's fault.

    Then you buy the liberal rhetoric about the Great Depression which since you weren't around then and probably not around during the early 80's wouldn't understand what a bad economy really looks like. A depression today is not getting an IPhone. Try paying 17+% for a home in 1981.

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    Re: Obama's FY 2012 Budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Back in the '80s the president's budget each year was DOA at capitol hill. Seems like old times.

    The president offered a middle-of-the-road budget plan with more than a trillion dollars of cuts over the next decade. This plan doesn't begin to address the structural deficits that the Bush years produced.
    30 years ago, the national debt was around 1 Trillion. The middle-of-the-road budget with 1 Trillion in cuts will add 13 Trillion in debt over the same decade.

    Quote Originally Posted by Miami Herald
    WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama proposed a $3.73 trillion budget Monday for fiscal 2012 that he said will start reining in runaway budget deficits, but his plan envisions the gross national debt swelling by almost $13 trillion over a decade.
    How is this possible you ask?

    Quote Originally Posted by Miami Herald
    He also said he'd cut this year's record $1.65 trillion deficit to $1.1 trillion next year, but he avoids tough choices on such big issues as Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security, which together are driving the national debt skyward.
    Read more: Obama's budget would add $13 trillion to national debt - Politics Wires - MiamiHerald.com

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    On the other hand, it didn't much matter what Obama offered, the Republicans would have been critical. Now it's the House G.O.P.'s fractious caucus' turn and from what we've already seen of their budgetary ideas they will offer a budget so radical in its breadth and depth that the American people will find comfort in Obama's same old, same old.
    Normally I'd say you're right. However, there may be a wind blowing that says we can no longer pass the buck and find comfort.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    The only approaches that have realistically addressed the challenges that America faces going forward have resembled the presidential debt commission plan: encompassing wide ranging budgetary, entitlement and tax policies reforms. The rough formula has been two-third spending cuts, one third tax increases.

    Until the adults get in a room and settle on a comprehensive plan, there seems little point in participating in this mud fight which is more about the next election than it is about governing the nation.
    The odd part about that is the 2012 budget IGNORES Obama's own debt commissions findings entirely. I think there are more adults in the room since the mid-term election. As in Egypt, the people have spoken. It's wise for government to listen.
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    Re: Obama's FY 2012 Budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    All part of the Obama masterplan, to turn this country into a European socialist model that redistributes wealth and grows the size of govt. Anyone that supports this is on the wrong side of history.
    I don't think Europe has as much debt though... America will have to spend less or pay off some major debts to be on the same level of European socalism

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    Re: Obama's FY 2012 Budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Why do you support what Obama is implementing? His goal was to fundamentally change this country. Looks to me like far too many misunderstood what that change entailed. You really don't see the masterplan in the policies he is implementing?
    ohh, Conservative is in this thread... it's gonna be a good one

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    Re: Obama's FY 2012 Budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Isn't it amazing how cult followers operate? They ignore the history that refutes their ideology preferring instead to showing their arrogance in believing they can do better than the previous group of liberals.
    That's funny coming from somebody calling himself a Conservative, and not an Idependent... Were you cult following Bush when he spent a trillion dollars too?

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