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    Muslim Brotherhood Will Not Put Up a Presidential Candidate

    From the BBC's ongoing live coverage of events in Egypt:

    BBC News - Egypt's new era

    16:35 p.m.: The Muslim Brotherhood say they will not put up a presidential candidate at the next election. "The Muslim Brotherhood... are not seeking personal gains, so they announce they will not run for the presidency and will not seek to get a majority in the parliament and that they consider themselves servants of these decent people," the Brotherhood said, according to the Reuters news agency. The BBC's Yolande Knell, in Cairo, says this is a restatement of their previous position. The Brotherhood are very wary of how they are seen in the West, our correspondent adds.

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    Re: Muslim Brotherhood Will Not Put Up a Presidential Candidate

    I am not surprised. The Muslim Brotherhood understands the realities of Egyptian society and knows that despite its organizational capabilities that it lacks the prospects to win the Egyptian Presidency, much less gain a Parliamentary majority in any representative government. First, Egypt's secular nationalism is too great to permit a theocratic-type or fundamentalist religious government. Second, Egypt's military, which plays a strong role behind the scenes, would not tolerate such an outcome. It remains to be seen whether the Muslim Brotherhood will even be permitted a voice during the transitional period that is being led by Egypt's military.

    Consequently, the Muslim Brotherhood's near-term strategy is aimed at gaining a chance to participate in a future government.

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    Re: Muslim Brotherhood Will Not Put Up a Presidential Candidate

    Oh, well, since they said it...I'm sold!
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    Re: Muslim Brotherhood Will Not Put Up a Presidential Candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Oh, well, since they said it...I'm sold!
    The Muslim Brotherhood can always change its position. However, as Egypt is nowhere similar to Iran, it is highly unlikely that the Muslim Brotherhood would be able to win the Presidency, much less gain a Parliamentary majority. In Iran, the base of secular nationalism was extremely shallow and superficial. In Egypt, it is broad and deep.

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    Re: Muslim Brotherhood Will Not Put Up a Presidential Candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    The Muslim Brotherhood can always change its position. However, as Egypt is nowhere similar to Iran, it is highly unlikely that the Muslim Brotherhood would be able to win the Presidency, much less gain a Parliamentary majority. In Iran, the base of secular nationalism was extremely shallow and superficial. In Egypt, it is broad and deep.
    The MB was founded in 1928. Since then, they have been shooting to create an Islamist government in Egypt. Now, they have their big chance, they're just going to sit on the side lines?

    Sorry, bro, I'm just not buyin' it.

    You keep working on the naive assumption that the MB is going to play by the rules.
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    Re: Muslim Brotherhood Will Not Put Up a Presidential Candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You keep working on the naive assumption that the MB is going to play by the rules.
    I made no suggestion of this. I only said that the Muslim Brotherhood will not win the Presidency/Parliamentary majority should it compete in any elections 6-18 months from now. Moreover, the temporary military-led government might not even permit it a voice during the transitional period. Finally, Egypt is not Iran. Had Iran's population had a broad-based commitment to secular nationalism, the Iranian Revolution could never have turned out as it did. In Egypt, both the large commitment to secular nationalism and also the strong role played by the military preclude an Iran-style revolution anytime soon. That does not mean that Egypt is assured to evolve into a liberal democracy. It only means that it is unlikely that Egypt will be transformed into a revolutionary Islamic state anytime soon.
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    Re: Muslim Brotherhood Will Not Put Up a Presidential Candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    I made no suggestion of this. I only said that the Muslim Brotherhood will not win the Presidency/Parliamentary majority should it compete in any elections 6-18 months from now. Moreover, the temporary military-led government might not even permit it a voice during the transitional period. Finally, Egypt is not Iran. Had Iran's population had a broad-based commitment to secular nationalism, the Iranian Revolution could never have turned out as it did. In Egypt, both the large commitment to secular nationalism and also the strong role played by the military preclude an Iran-style revolution anytime soon. That does not mean that Egypt is assured to evolve into a liberal democracy. It only means that it is unlikely that Egypt will be transformed into a revolutionary Islamic state anytime soon.

    That sounds remarkably like you're assuming that they're going to play by the rules.
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    Re: Muslim Brotherhood Will Not Put Up a Presidential Candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That sounds remarkably like you're assuming that they're going to play by the rules.
    I'm not ruling out that they might resort to violence. They have in the past. However, IMO, the military would crush any attempted coup on their part. Although I suspect that their long-term aspirations remain unchanged, I also suspect that they realize that in the near-term, they need to scale back their aspirations.

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    Re: Muslim Brotherhood Will Not Put Up a Presidential Candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    I'm not ruling out that they might resort to violence.
    They don't have to resort to violence to play outside the rules.


    They have in the past. However, IMO, the military would crush any attempted coup on their part. Although I suspect that their long-term aspirations remain unchanged, I also suspect that they realize that in the near-term, they need to scale back their aspirations.
    Unless the army is in on it with them. Then what?

    I'm sorry, but I think that alotta folks are taking a very naive/ignorant view towards this situation.
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    Re: Muslim Brotherhood Will Not Put Up a Presidential Candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Unless the army is in on it with them. Then what?

    I'm sorry, but I think that alotta folks are taking a very naive/ignorant view towards this situation.
    There's no credible evidence that the Muslim Brotherhood has penetrated the army to any great extent. The near-term will not witness Egypt's becoming a part of an "Islamic caliphate" as some pundits have suggested.

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