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    Re: Muslim Brotherhood Will Not Put Up a Presidential Candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    So the Muslim Brotherhood are in cahoots with Code Pink? Who knew that misogynistic muslim fundamentalists and liberal american women would be so alike. I guess that they have completely opposed ideologies doesn't matter; if J-mac doesn't like them, they must all somehow working together in a grand conspiracy.
    They enjoy trading skirts and burqas, and not shaving their body hair.

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    Re: Muslim Brotherhood Will Not Put Up a Presidential Candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Look, it is what it is, these are unconventional sources to be sure, but in this time when the media is so damned dishonest to the people, we must turn to unconventional sourcing.
    You're working your way to the conspiracy theory board, bro, slowly but surely. This is where it starts. Next thing we know, you'll be posting how it wasn't the guy on the grassy knoll or Lee Harvey Oswald, it was the driver of JFK's limo.

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    Re: Muslim Brotherhood Will Not Put Up a Presidential Candidate

    Links to violence

    "The Brotherhood is widely believed to have had a "secret apparatus" responsible for attacks in Egypt, including the assassination of Mahmoud an-Nukrashi Pasha, the Egyptian Prime Minister in 1948[97] and the president of Egypt in 1981[98]

    Rachel Aspden's article, The Rise of the Brotherhood states that The Muslim Brotherhood currently advocates suicide bombing attacks on civilians to fight Zionism, and its self-admitted Palestinian wing Hamas indiscriminately targets Jews as such, both civilians and the military, in Israel.[99]

    In its Charter, Hamas cites The Protocols of the Elders of Zion and prophesizes the ultimate complete annihilation of Jewry.[100]

    Newsweek journalists Mark Hosenball and Michael Isikoff reported connections between al-Qaeda and Brotherhood figures Mamoun Darkazanli and Youssef Nada.[101]

    A similar article in the Financial Times reported financial links between 74-year-old Swiss Muslim convert, and businessman Ahmed Huber, and members of the Muslim Brotherhood, notably Youssef Nada, Ali Ghaleb Himmat. According to the U.S. government, Al Taqwa "has long acted as financial advisers to al-Qaeda." Huber is noted in Europe for his links with alleged neo-Nazi and other far right elements.[102][103] He is reported to have "confirmed" having "had contact with associates of Osama bin Laden at an Islamic conference in Beirut," whom he called `very discreet, well-educated, very intelligent people.`[102]

    Abdul Rahman al-Amoudi was an influential lobbyist and founder and head of the Brotherhood-linked American Muslim Council before being convicted and sentenced to 23 years in prison for conspiracy to murder Saudi Prince Abdullah at the behest of Libyan leader Muammar al-Gaddafi.[104] "


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    Believe there is some reasonable evidence that the Muslim Brotherhood has a violent element. Maybe the evidence isn't concrete to everyone at this point. But am thinking I prolly wouldn't let them babysit my kids...


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    Re: Muslim Brotherhood Will Not Put Up a Presidential Candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    You're working your way to the conspiracy theory board, bro, slowly but surely. This is where it starts. Next thing we know, you'll be posting how it wasn't the guy on the grassy knoll or Lee Harvey Oswald, it was the driver of JFK's limo.

    Not at all, but do we have to wait until it is too late before we say 'oh, I guess we should have done something'......

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    Re: Muslim Brotherhood Will Not Put Up a Presidential Candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Not at all, but do we have to wait until it is too late before we say 'oh, I guess we should have done something'......

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    And what should you do? Go in there and install a pro-US government.

    See this whole thing about "What Obama Should do" is really get on my nerves, he's doing exactly what he should do, staying out of the domestic affairs of a sovereign nation.

    Otherwise I'd like to ask you j-mac, with your vast foreign policy experience, and expert advisers and intelligence on the ground, what would you do?

    I'll be waiting for that answer.

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    Re: Muslim Brotherhood Will Not Put Up a Presidential Candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    From the BBC's ongoing live coverage of events in Egypt:

    BBC News - Egypt's new era
    Horse ****. The Muslim Brotherhood will go for the majority and they will get it, simply because they are the best organised and will get a **** load of money from Iran. If they were at all serious about "not taking over" then they would not have done this today..

    Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood To Form Political Party : NPR

    Now, the real question is if the Army will allow it... the army HATES the muslim brotherhood.
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    Re: Muslim Brotherhood Will Not Put Up a Presidential Candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    And what should you do? Go in there and install a pro-US government.

    See this whole thing about "What Obama Should do" is really get on my nerves, he's doing exactly what he should do, staying out of the domestic affairs of a sovereign nation.

    Otherwise I'd like to ask you j-mac, with your vast foreign policy experience, and expert advisers and intelligence on the ground, what would you do?

    I'll be waiting for that answer.

    See, this is the problem with you libs, you always take it too far. I'm a simple guy JB, and one that although has some years under my belt, and has seen past situations like this unfold, I can only give you my opinion, the same way in which you give yours.

    I do not think that we should have meddled in the actual uprising and ousting of Mubarak, but to now sit on our hands without utilizing the institutions available to us to help them actually achieve their democracy ie through teaching them institution building, and our NGO's resource, then we are doing exactly what Carter did with Iran, and that turned out badly no?

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    Re: Muslim Brotherhood Will Not Put Up a Presidential Candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I do not think that we should have meddled in the actual uprising and ousting of Mubarak, but to now sit on our hands without utilizing the institutions available to us to help them actually achieve their democracy ie through teaching them institution building, and our NGO's resource, then we are doing exactly what Carter did with Iran, and that turned out badly no?

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    Iran and Egypt are non comparable. Your point is mute.

    Let the Egyptians build their nation, your fear is about things like the Muslim Brotherhood, teaching Egypt about "democracy" is not gonna stop them getting into power if people vote for them dude.

    Did someone have to come in and "teach" America how to build their democracy?

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    Re: Muslim Brotherhood Will Not Put Up a Presidential Candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Iran and Egypt are non comparable. Your point is mute.
    I think they are comparable, My opinion ofcourse, and I sure don't have a crystal ball, also, I think you mean "moot"......


    Let the Egyptians build their nation, your fear is about things like the Muslim Brotherhood, teaching Egypt about "democracy" is not gonna stop them getting into power if people vote for them dude.
    Absolutely. Build away. But they are going to need help. The MB is NOT about democracy, unless you fall for their bilge that is.

    Did someone have to come in and "teach" America how to build their democracy?
    I believe France lent quite a bit of assistance did they not?


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    Re: Muslim Brotherhood Will Not Put Up a Presidential Candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I think they are comparable, My opinion ofcourse, and I sure don't have a crystal ball, also, I think you mean "moot"......
    lol I shall be more careful when it comes to muut in the future

    We shall have to agree to disagree on this one, but the Iranian situation was vastly different.

    Absolutely. Build away. But they are going to need help. The MB is NOT about democracy, unless you fall for their bilge that is.
    The Muslim Brotherhood isn't about democracy? They have made no attempt to take over government. Now I do not like the Muslim Brotherhood, but if they are democratically elected in a free and fair election to a majority in parlaiment, that is democracy. Sorry but it is.

    Democracy isn't all about having Happy meals and Mall of America my friend.

    I believe France lent quite a bit of assistance did they not?


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    Freedom Fries anyone?

    Military assistance is a little different, America forged their democracy all on their own, or do you wanna give credit to the french.

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