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    Re: Pakistan remands US official in jail for 14 days

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post


    He shot two Pakistanis in what he claims was self defence at close range
    A third civilian was run over by the US Consulate who hurried to rescue him.
    He was found with maps of key sites in his possession and a number of weapons (Dude is so a spy ... kinda **** tho)
    Pakistani public who are already Anti American are getting hella pissed in an atmosphere described as dangerous.
    To make matters even worse the poor widow of the man he killed has committed suicide which has further inflamed the public as she stated on her death bed that there will be no justice. Many comparing her to the Tunisian vendor who killed himself and then sparked two revolution. Pakistan's 1973 constitution does not grant diplomatic immunity in the case of criminal offences

    It's simple what must happen to shut this case and keep ties with Pakistan healthy.
    Pakistan should just hang him or shoot him at close range and be done with it and if US does make Pakistan hand it back.
    Then all is fair in love and war. The Pakistani diplomat in US should just go out and shoot and kill three American civilians to quieten the Pakistani public and give the widow 'blood for blood'.

    US will not do anything to Pakistan except maybe cut off aid. Pakistan can simply go look at Iran, I'm sure it can find a buyer for it's Nuclear weapons if worse comes to worst
    My, my, aren't you all sunshine and love. Well, there you go. Why even bother with a trial? You've pronounced him guilty and decided he should be executed without benefit of that pesky trial. Even better, you've decided that a Pakistani with diplomatic immunity should hunt down three Americans and slaughter them to give the dead widow "blood for blood." But wait!! Surely diplomatic immunity should not be given to a Pakistani who engages in "cold-blooded murder" for a dead widow???

    Well, yes, yes it should because both Pakistan and the USA are signatories of the convention which prevents anyone with diplomatic immunity from being prosecuted for ANY crime unless said immunity is waived.

    Don't think I'll be paying much attention to your posts in the future.
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    Re: Pakistan remands US official in jail for 14 days

    I don't want Pakistan falling even further to the right or God forbid the Islamists getting the upper hand over the hated Pro Western Government and if US does force Pakistan to acknowledge diplomatic ties, to quieten the tension. Pakistan must pull some magical rabbit out of it's hat

    One American's life is insignificant to what may happen if Pakistan's Government is pushed with already distrust and hatred high. Taliban operating, Afghan border and Nuclear weapons.
    If it makes you feel any better, I'd say the same thing if it was a British "spy" in that position.

    He ****ed up. He got caught. Sacrifice him


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    Re: Pakistan remands US official in jail for 14 days

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    One American's life is insignificant ...
    And there we have it, the bottom line.

    Definitely not paying attention to your posts anymore.

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    Re: Pakistan remands US official in jail for 14 days

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    And there we have it, the bottom line.

    Definitely not paying attention to your posts anymore.
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    If it makes you feel any better, I'd say the same thing if it was a British "spy" in that position.


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    Re: Pakistan remands US official in jail for 14 days

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post


    He shot two Pakistanis in what he claims was self defence at close range
    A third civilian was run over by the US Consulate who hurried to rescue him.
    He was found with maps of key sites in his possession and a number of weapons (Dude is so a spy ... kinda **** tho)
    Pakistani public who are already Anti American are getting hella pissed in an atmosphere described as dangerous.
    To make matters even worse the poor widow of the man he killed has committed suicide which has further inflamed the public as she stated on her death bed that there will be no justice. Many comparing her to the Tunisian vendor who killed himself and then sparked two revolution. Pakistan's 1973 constitution does not grant diplomatic immunity in the case of criminal offences

    It's simple what must happen to shut this case and keep ties with Pakistan healthy.
    Pakistan should just hang him or shoot him at close range and be done with it and if US does make Pakistan hand it back.
    Then all is fair in love and war. The Pakistani diplomat in US should just go out and shoot and kill three American civilians to quieten the Pakistani public and give the widow 'blood for blood'.

    US will not do anything to Pakistan except maybe cut off aid. Pakistan can simply go look at Iran, I'm sure it can find a buyer for it's Nuclear weapons if worse comes to worst
    Pakistan has two supporters who are of a longer lastings and permanent nature then the US. It is rumored that Saudi Arabia has at least two nukes for its use provided by Pakistan. China has been for the last 40 years a more reliable ally of Paskistan then the US (India China issues)


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    Re: Pakistan remands US official in jail for 14 days

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    It's simple what must happen to shut this case and keep ties with Pakistan healthy.
    Pakistan should just hang him or shoot him at close range and be done with it and if US does make Pakistan hand it back.
    Then all is fair in love and war. The Pakistani diplomat in US should just go out and shoot and kill three American civilians to quieten the Pakistani public and give the widow 'blood for blood'.
    This is plain ugly. Somewhere along the line, the Laila I used to know has vanished.

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    Re: Pakistan remands US official in jail for 14 days

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post


    He shot two Pakistanis in what he claims was self defence at close range
    A third civilian was run over by the US Consulate who hurried to rescue him.
    He was found with maps of key sites in his possession and a number of weapons (Dude is so a spy ... kinda **** tho)
    Pakistani public who are already Anti American are getting hella pissed in an atmosphere described as dangerous.
    To make matters even worse the poor widow of the man he killed has committed suicide which has further inflamed the public as she stated on her death bed that there will be no justice. Many comparing her to the Tunisian vendor who killed himself and then sparked two revolution. Pakistan's 1973 constitution does not grant diplomatic immunity in the case of criminal offences

    It's simple what must happen to shut this case and keep ties with Pakistan healthy.
    Pakistan should just hang him or shoot him at close range and be done with it and if US does make Pakistan hand it back.
    Then all is fair in love and war. The Pakistani diplomat in US should just go out and shoot and kill three American civilians to quieten the Pakistani public and give the widow 'blood for blood'.

    US will not do anything to Pakistan except maybe cut off aid. Pakistan can simply go look at Iran, I'm sure it can find a buyer for it's Nuclear weapons if worse comes to worst
    If Pakistan is a signatory to the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations, then what is it's Constitution is quite irrelevant. It is bound to follow and abide by its provisions.

    Also, I have no faith and trust in the Pakistani justice system to grant him a fair trial. Pakistan is a partner of convenience, nothing more. They have far longer-standing friendships with China for me to think that they actually consider the U.S. to be anything akin to a friend...

    I beleive in individual rights. We should NOT sacrifice a man who was likely operating under orders and acting in self-defense for what you perceive to be the greater good. We are not Vulcans, after all...
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    Re: Pakistan remands US official in jail for 14 days

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    This is plain ugly. Somewhere along the line, the Laila I used to know has vanished.
    Oh, but she thinks that if she says the same about a British spy, then it's okay.
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    Re: Pakistan remands US official in jail for 14 days

    What I find more troubling than this moron, is that the US media self-censored the fact that he was a CIA agent on the request of the Obama administration. It was only after a British newspaper blew the whistle so to say, that the US media admitted he was a CIA agent.

    Link here

    The New York Times, Washington Post, and Associated Press reported Monday that Raymond Davis—an American who shot two men in Pakistan last month—was working for the CIA at the time. And while reporting that news, all three outlets revealed something else: They had been holding back that information at the U.S. government's request.

    But the government dropped its request after a British paper broke the news a day earlier
    As for the idiot himself.. let him fry.
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    Re: Pakistan remands US official in jail for 14 days

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    If this man is indeed a consular official, he does have diplomatic immunity and the most the Pakistani government can legally do is declare him persona non grata (which is what I am sure the end result of this case will be). Remanding him to prison for two weeks is a violation of international law.

    But then again, as the U.S. violates international law when it comes to allowing consular officials to have contact with their nationals in detainment, I suppose the U.S. really does not have that much right to squak about this... Thanks Texas for that....
    Texas exists to show the rest of the 21st century world what not to do.

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