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    Re: German firm in talks to purchase NYSE

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    You have 326 noble prize winners and of those 84 were not born in the US.
    So what? The United States is known as the land of opportunity so whether the Nobel Prize winners were born there or not matters not at all. The point is that America provided the opportunity for the scientific breakthroughs.

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    Re: German firm in talks to purchase NYSE

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post


    There are 829 prizes in history.

    You have 326 noble prize winners and of those 84 were not born in the US. If we use today's population then that is about 1 per 1 million people, and much less if we dont count those not born in the US.

    Germany on the other hand has 102 prize winners, and 11 were not born within the borders of what is Germany today. However of those 11, most were born within the borders of Germany at the time of their birth. Germany has today 80 million people.

    My own country of Denmark has had 13 prize winners, out of a population of 5 million. Much better return on investment no?



    Considering it is your military industrial complex that has stood for most of the real American innovations, then probably no where.
    I wonder how many of the 84 winners you cite who were not born in the U.S. would have died in gas chambers before winning the award had there been no U.S.

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    Re: German firm in talks to purchase NYSE

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    I wonder how many of the 84 winners you cite who were not born in the U.S. would have died in gas chambers before winning the award had there been no U.S.
    ...... cant debate so you pull the holocaust card? tsk.
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    Re: German firm in talks to purchase NYSE

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    So what? The United States is known as the land of opportunity so whether the Nobel Prize winners were born there or not matters not at all. The point is that America provided the opportunity for the scientific breakthroughs.
    As I have stated, there is a difference between scientific breakthroughs and exploiting other peoples work. The US is nr. 1 (so far) on exploiting the advances of people from around the world, but on the scientific breakthroughs it is no more than below average relative to the amount of people living there and amount of money available. Most major breakthroughs have not happened by Americans.... cars, jets, rockets, nuclear power, the web (not the internet backbone), computers, heart transplant and so on and so on. But the US has been able to exploit these advances and make them available to the masses.

    And now days, the real innovation is in China.. why? Because that is where the money is and of course a huge growning market that dwarfs the US. In 10 to 20 years, people will be going to China with their ideas to get exploited, not the US.
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    Re: German firm in talks to purchase NYSE

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    I wonder how many of the 84 winners you cite who were not born in the U.S. would have died in gas chambers before winning the award had there been no U.S.
    None, Germany couldn't have defeated Russia.
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    Re: German firm in talks to purchase NYSE

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    ...... cant debate so you pull the holocaust card? tsk.
    "The Holocaust card"????

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    Re: German firm in talks to purchase NYSE

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    ...... cant debate so you pull the holocaust card? tsk.
    Why not answer the question. Thee truth is that America is a bastion for immigrants so your point about the "foreign born" Americans is irrelelant. That was the point.

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    Re: German firm in talks to purchase NYSE

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    As I have stated, there is a difference between scientific breakthroughs and exploiting other peoples work.
    How was anyone being"exploited"? Name a few of these exploited people.
    The US is nr. 1 (so far) on exploiting the advances of people from around the world, but on the scientific breakthroughs it is no more than below average relative to the amount of people living there and amount of money available.
    More than "exploiting the advances of people" they are providing the opportunities, and thus the advances. No one is kidnapping them and bring them to the United States under the cover of darkness.
    Most major breakthroughs have not happened by Americans.... cars, jets, rockets, nuclear power, the web (not the internet backbone), computers, heart transplant and so on and so on. But the US has been able to exploit these advances and make them available to the masses.
    And there are lists where those breakthroughs did happen in the United States and I could make a list also. But you be sure to keep your list handy. How is making progress available to people everywhere 'exploiting ' anyone? the Japanese have been able to do th same, btw, and more power to them.
    And now days, the real innovation is in China.. why? Because that is where the money is and of course a huge growning market that dwarfs the US. In 10 to 20 years, people will be going to China with their ideas to get exploited, not the US.
    The Chinese economy is a fraction of the American economy and demographics will play a part in all of this. But if China has its chance in the sun it's fine with me. The same can be true of India. I believe that America, Europe, China and India can all prosper if they play their cards right.

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    Re: German firm in talks to purchase NYSE

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    This is one of many things that should remain under U.S. control like all of our defense industries which I am sorry to say some parts which are already vulnerable to the whims of Nations which could become of questionable loyalty at the wrong time.

    We don't need stocks possibly being manipulated by outsiders. No offense to Germany but they have a poor track record with economics as I recall it. Not counting recent history that is.
    Guess we've seen which wins in the debate between Nationalism v. Capitalism for American Neocons.




    As well, Germany's economic history is probably the most successful story in the world.

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