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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak resigns as leader

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post

    You are just a typical old, crusty anti-war protester from the Vietnam era .......

    You have no integrity.

    Sour puss.
    Someone get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning? Just because you have nothing to substaniate your case does not mean you have to stoop to name calling.

    If you get yourself calmed down to the point where you can discuss without insults, let me know.
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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak resigns as leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    The brave souls on the streets of Tunis did.

    Not you.

    I wanna be on your side about this Reefe, but Iraq has little to do with it.
    Jet,

    Tunisians and Egyptians and other secular youths on the internet throughout the region have been planning this for 3-4 years. They have been demonstrating on April 6th in Egypt the last 3 years. This did not come out of the blue.

    The Arab world watched events unfold in Iraq over Al'Jazeera for years, since 2003. They saw the progression to ratifying a constitution, 3 national elections, provincial elections... The Arab world watched Iraqis demonstrate and criticize their government. They watched the exercise of human and political rights. This all did not go unnoticed! Iraq had a lot to do with encouraging democracy. It's a fact.

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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak resigns as leader

    Quote Originally Posted by USA_1 View Post
    You must be kidding. The current Iraqi government is just as corrupt as the old one.

    Stable? Iraqis protest lack of services, corruption - CNN.com
    I notice the army and police did not stop the demonstrations or shoot at the Iraqis. They were criticizing their own mayor.

    Do you think the US government is not corrupt???

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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak resigns as leader

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    I notice the army and police did not stop the demonstrations or shoot at the Iraqis. They were criticizing their own mayor.
    And the prime minister. Demonstrations are growing all over Iraq. They are figuring out that the US won't let the government shoot protesters now. Egyptian revolution sparks protest movement in democratic Iraq
    Do you think the US government is not corrupt???
    Yes, it is. The billions wasted in Iraq and the Goldman Sachs fiasco were evidence of that.
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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak resigns as leader

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    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    And the prime minister. Demonstrations are growing all over Iraq. They are figuring out that the US won't let the government shoot protesters now. Egyptian revolution sparks protest movement in democratic Iraq
    Yes, it is. The billions wasted in Iraq and the Goldman Sachs fiasco were evidence of that.
    The US has nothing to do with it anymore. It is all the Iraqi security forces, and they are their to PROTECT THE POPULATION, rather than PROTECT THE REGIME! The Arab world knows this is the case in Iraq and they want the same conditions in their own countries.

    PS. I am thrilled the Iraqis are protesting against their government.

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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak resigns as leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Someone get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning? Just because you have nothing to substaniate your case does not mean you have to stoop to name calling.

    If you get yourself calmed down to the point where you can discuss without insults, let me know.
    Heh, I have plenty to substantiate my case, but you don't listen. You are so locked into your worldview that there is no hope of changing your mind. We have been over this many times before, so there is no use continuing. YOU ARE WRONG.

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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak resigns as leader

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    PS. I am thrilled the Iraqis are protesting against their government.
    The government that cost us a trillion dollars and thousands of lives to install? You are thrilled that the Iraqis don't embrace it?
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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak resigns as leader

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post

    The US has nothing to do with it anymore.
    Except the 35,000 combat ready troops that remain with the full force of the most powerful military on the planet backing them up.
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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak resigns as leader

    Quote Originally Posted by USA_1 View Post
    The government that cost us a trillion dollars and thousands of lives to install? You are thrilled that the Iraqis don't embrace it?
    A) we didn't install the government, the Iraqis voted for it.
    B) It is Sunnis and Shiites protesting, although not in the thousands
    C) the Sunnis are protesting against fellow Sunnis in power in Fallujah
    D) Shiites are protesting against the Shiite federal government

    Dozens of small-scale demonstrations have taken place across the country over the past two weeks, most of them protesting poor services, particularly the lack of electricity - a perennial complaint that has spurred Iraqis to take to the streets many times before.

    But a new movement seems to be emerging, too, among students and young professionals clearly inspired by the events in Egypt and also by their own disappointments with Iraq's democratic experiment.

    Multiple groups are springing up on Facebook calling for protests to demand reforms, among them No to Silence, Baghdad Won't Be Kandahar, the Blue Revolution and one simply called Join US Soon for the Biggest Ever Youth Sit-In in Baghdad, which initiated the small protest Friday in Tahrir Square.

    Another is planned for Monday, but the biggest buzz is building around what has been billed on various Web sites as a "Revolution of Iraqi Rage" scheduled for Feb. 25 in the same square, the city's most prominent public space, just across the Tigris River from the fortified Green Zone.

    The groups say their goal is not to overthrow the government - which is still not fully formed after elections nearly a year ago, another source of frustration - but to demand change on multiple fronts, from specifics such as the provision of electricity and jobs to more general issues such as good governance and accountability.
    Seems they like their FORM of government, just that they don't like the way it is performing.

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