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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak resigns as leader

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How can I put this...

    I agree that Mubarack needs to be run out of town on a rail, but I'm not convinced that the Egyptians traded up.

    Ya' follow?
    The Egyptians have done the REMARKABLE these past 18 days. It really is a Revolution and that don't happen every decade. No one knows the ultimate outcome and there is a probability that it could turn out worse than it was....for who? It may be better for the Egyptians but worse for the US and Israel. So be it. Same thing happened in Iraq. Fragile democracy who are anti-American.

    You have been profoundly negative and ringing alarm bells about the possible negative outcome of all this. We got that the first time you posted. Conservatives are running around with their shriveled-up dicks in their hand worried about the consequences and immune to the remarkable events and remarkable resilience of the young Egyptian people, who are not Islamists. You will get to witness a true ideological battle in the ME between the secular and the Islamists. It is time for the secular Muslims to stand up against tyranny, whether that takes the form of secular autocracy or theocracy.

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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak resigns as leader

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Ok...I never said that Mubarack didn't need to get the hell out town. You claim that I did. It's either a fallacy, or a flat out lie. You choose.
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    Well what is it? Was Mubaraks leaving a good or a bad thing? Your previous posts lead us to believe you think it was a bad thing.
    You can't have it both ways.
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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak resigns as leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    Just as it's not a fact that it will pose a threat. So the fearmongering you and a few others are doing is nothing short of laughable.


    What is? The supression of the Egyptian people for the last thirty years? Yes, suspending constitutional rights is completely opinionated.
    This part of your post is opinion:

    The new government will be better than the previous one by a longshot.
    In case you haven't notice; the Egyptians no longer have any constitutional rights, because there's no longer a constitution.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak resigns as leader

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The constitution was voided by the military, so the MB isn't banned, anymore.
    The Constitution has not been voided by the military. You have no idea what you're talking about.

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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak resigns as leader

    Quote Originally Posted by USA_1 View Post
    Well what is it? Was Mubaraks leaving a good or a bad thing? Your previous posts lead us to believe you think it was a bad thing.
    You can't have it both ways.
    I've never come close to saying that Mubarack stepping down was a bad thing.

    What's that? Fallacy #5?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak resigns as leader

    I will once again choose the Neoconservative perspective on all of this.

    Stand for Freedom

    But hysteria is not a sign of health. When Glenn Beck rants about the caliphate taking over the Middle East from Morocco to the Philippines, and lists (invents?) the connections between caliphate-promoters and the American left, he brings to mind no one so much as Robert Welch and the John Birch Society. He’s marginalizing himself, just as his predecessors did back in the early 1960s.

    Nor is it a sign of health when other American conservatives are so fearful of a popular awakening that they side with the dictator against the democrats. Rather, it’s a sign of fearfulness unworthy of Americans, of short-sightedness uncharacteristic of conservatives, of excuse-making for thuggery unworthy of the American conservative tradition.

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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak resigns as leader

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    This part of your post is opinion:
    It's a fact that having rights will be better than not having any rights.

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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak resigns as leader

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Do you think it would be possible and beneficial to make Egypt a "most favored nation" for increased economic development and trade? To help them address the economic woes. Does "most favored nation" mean anything anymore?
    MFN now refers to permanent normal trade relations with the U.S. Egypt already has such a trade relationship with the U.S. IMO, it would be in the U.S. interest to be prepared to assist a future elected Egyptian government (so long as it is a friendly one) with economic development. Economic development will be a priority.

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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak resigns as leader

    All foreign aid will end.

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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak resigns as leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    All foreign aid will end.
    Currently, there's no serious legislative effort underway to eliminate U.S. foreign assistance to Egypt.

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