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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak resigns as leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Proper spelling, good grammar, and historical perspective do.

    There were plenty of nay-sayers during our revolution. Most of them sided with the British. They were, as it turns out, on the wrong side of history.

    Before you can put things into historical perspective, you must first present accurate historical facts, not just made up **** motivated by political hackery.
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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak resigns as leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    More strawmen. Do you plan to build a house out of all that straw someday?
    You got a link for any of that bull**** you posted?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak resigns as leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Some of the conservatives on this thread, if they'd been in Boston, Massachusetts in 1776, when the Declaration of Independence was read and distributed widely...
    "This can't possibly work. There will be anarchy and chaos! People will die! THIS IS GOING TO BE VERY, VERY BAD. I can't believe you people are celebrating in the streets."

    Those same conservatives, 1779...
    "This war has been dragging on forever, and we are getting nowhere. Houses are being burned, people are being killed, and we're running out of money. We should have stayed loyal to King George. Stupid protesters and their stupid tea parties caused this entire mess. Oh, and George Washington is a complete incompetent who doesn't know what the hell he's doing."

    Those same conservatives in 1787...
    "Well, this will never work. It's practically a military coup. You realize that George Washington isn't a politician, he's a GENERAL IN THE ARMY. WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A FORMAL CONSTITUTION YET. Rights will be trampled on! Laws will be violated! The army will be running things!"

    I'm sure glad that Apdst, Erod, Zimmer and the Prof weren't running things in the U.S. in 1776. Or, 1779. Or 1787.

    We'd all still have british accents and be paying out the ass for tea.
    Though conservatives would have been more supportive of Washington because they may not have been one of the radical Jeffersonians. Truth be told, we could play these historical games all we want, but it would not matter a great deal. In every historical era, certain characteristics turn out to be the correct ones while others are not. To find the complete ideology that works in all cases is ridiculous.
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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak resigns as leader

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Before you can put things into historical perspective, you must first present accurate historical facts, not just made up **** motivated by political hackery.
    Those are historical facts, and all of those things were said back in the day, when we were going through our own struggles. It alarms me that you don't know your own history.

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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak resigns as leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Those are historical facts, and all of those things were said back in the day, when we were going through our own struggles. It alarms me that you don't know your own history.
    Let's see some source documentation proving that it's historical fact.
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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak resigns as leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Though conservatives would have been more supportive of Washington because they may not have been one of the radical Jeffersonians.
    I'm not claiming that those folks were conservatives. I'm saying that some of our current posters, who self label as conservatives, would have lacked the stones to make it through this nation's struggle for liberty, and would have gone crawling and crying back to King George, if they hadn't been loyalists to start with.

    After all...revolution is sooooo messy and scary.

    Ooo, hold me, fiddy. I'm so scared of the evil revolutionaries.

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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak resigns as leader

    Revolution is messy and scary. I do not take it lightly. I flatly admit my own feeling is to be risk averse. I have few problems with that characteristic.
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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak resigns as leader

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Let's see some source documentation proving that it's historical fact.
    It's historical fact that in 1776, many Americans were scared to fight against England because they were scared about the outcomes.
    It's a historical fact that in 1779, WE WERE LOSING.
    It's a historical fact that in 1787, we did not have a workable constitution *(yet) and the first person elected to lead this country was a military general.

    You should have paid attention in American history, bro. You've forgotten how messy things were for us.
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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak resigns as leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Revolution is messy and scary. I do not take it lightly. I flatly admit my own feeling is to be risk averse. I have few problems with that characteristic.
    On the other hand, while it is messy and scary, little positive change can be made without it (in a totalitarian dictatorship).

    It's that whole omelettes/broken eggs scenario.

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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak resigns as leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I'm not claiming that those folks were conservatives. I'm saying that some of our current posters, who self label as conservatives, would have lacked the stones to make it through this nation's struggle for liberty, and would have gone crawling and crying back to King George, if they hadn't been loyalists to start with.

    After all...revolution is sooooo messy and scary.

    Ooo, hold me, fiddy. I'm so scared of the evil revolutionaries.
    Yes you did. You claimed that what you posted is historical fact. Now, let's see some docs to support your, "facts".
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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