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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak resigns as leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Happy Times Are Hear Again. That's the name of a song isn't it?
    close, but no cigar.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak resigns as leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Not exactly.
    Hoping for change and wishful thinking don't add to the discourse.

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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak resigns as leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Some of the conservatives on this thread, if they'd been in Boston, Massachusetts in 1776, when the Declaration of Independence was read and distributed widely...
    "This can't possibly work. There will be anarchy and chaos! People will die! THIS IS GOING TO BE VERY, VERY BAD. I can't believe you people are celebrating in the streets."

    Those same conservatives, 1779...
    "This war has been dragging on forever, and we are getting nowhere. Houses are being burned, people are being killed, and we're running out of money. We should have stayed loyal to King George. Stupid protesters and their stupid tea parties caused this entire mess. Oh, and George Washington is a complete incompetent who doesn't know what the hell he's doing."

    Those same conservatives in 1787...
    "Well, this will never work. It's practically a military coup. You realize that George Washington isn't a politician, he's a GENERAL IN THE ARMY. WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A FORMAL CONSTITUTION YET. Rights will be trampled on! Laws will be violated! The army will be running things!"

    I'm sure glad that Apdst, Erod, Zimmer and the Prof weren't running things in the U.S. in 1776. Or, 1779. Or 1787.

    We'd all still have british accents and be paying out the ass for tea.
    More revisionist history. I love how Libbos think that the Founders were Libbos, too. Whatta joke!
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak resigns as leader

    accomplished without the people resorting to violence! who said it couldn't be done?

    the people do have the power. Viva el revolution!

    congratulations to the people of Egypt.
    Why do we fall?
    So we can learn to pick ourselves up.

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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak resigns as leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    That's why resistances and rebellions need to occur ONLY to install a democratic government. People will naturally take to Socialist ideas if they are not manipulated in the other direction as they are in the US.
    Americans are just smart that way.


    The government of Egypt has been military for generations. The military currently has control of the government to avoid anarchy. I dont see any indications that this will become a military dictatorship, but only time will truly tell. I hope I'm right.
    That's right and despite what Catz thinks, I don't see freedom as a bad thing for the Egyptians. I'm just waiting to see how things play out, before I jump on the happy train. There is still a huge possibility, that they jumped out of the pan, into the fire; especially, since the army is running the show. Historically speaking, there have been very few times when military rule was ever quietly transitioned over to civilian rule. Remember, Egypt has already been down this exact same road.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak resigns as leader

    That Egypt's people got what they wanted without vast amounts of violence, death and destruction cannot be stated enough. Yet getting Mubarak out of the leadership position is step one. That the Vice President now (hopefully) handles the leadership until elections, is preferred. The last thing they need is a vacuum to happen. The harder part now occurs... putting together a fair and free election this fall, and making sure the darker elements of political and social power do not try to snatch the leadership of the country for their own. Then all this would be in vain. The third part would be establishing a new government which would be able to peacefully transfer power as the will of the people and not, say, like Iran.

    Egypt's got a long way to go and the danger is only starting.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak resigns as leader

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    close, but no cigar.
    Cigars? Reminds me of Bill Clinton.

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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak resigns as leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Hoping for change and wishful thinking don't add to the discourse.
    Proper spelling, good grammar, and historical perspective do.

    There were plenty of nay-sayers during our revolution. Most of them sided with the British. They were, as it turns out, on the wrong side of history.

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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak resigns as leader

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    More revisionist history. I love how Libbos think that the Founders were Libbos, too. Whatta joke!
    More strawmen. Do you plan to build a house out of all that straw someday?

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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak resigns as leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    That Egypt's people got what they wanted without vast amounts of violence, death and destruction cannot be stated enough. Yet getting Mubarak out of the leadership position is step one. That the Vice President now (hopefully) handles the leadership until elections, is preferred. The last thing they need is a vacuum to happen. The harder part now occurs... putting together a fair and free election this fall, and making sure the darker elements of political and social power do not try to snatch the leadership of the country for their own. Then all this would be in vain. The third part would be establishing a new government which would be able to peacefully transfer power as the will of the people and not, say, like Iran.

    Egypt's got a long way to go and the danger is only starting.
    This is all true. However, it's still okay to celebrate what has been accomplished at this moment while understanding that there is a long path ahead of them.

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