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    Re: Proposed Law Would Criminalize ‘Misuse’ of Full-body Scanner Images

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Well, it would seem to me that the lack of actual women being outraged would make you realize that perhaps your assessment is based solely on your perception. No, to clarify... I think it's ridiculous that you are a guy and are suddenly such an expert on what is or isn't demeaning to women, and arrogantly so.
    As we have no idea how many women have seen this photo or have seen this thread you really have no idea what the majority of women feel one way or the other. While you accuse me of trying to speak for all women you're doing the same thing in your denial, but haven't the wit to realize it..

    Yeah exactly. It was politically motivated, which means that it has nothing to do with demeaning women. Your perceptions on the issue are twisted. And I'm not going to post a picture because I'm honestly not all that interested in how you would perceive a similar photo depicting a male.
    You can post all the pictures you want and I'll feel free to comment if I choose to do so. And it is a political comment only in the most juvenile sense. It is using women as a sex object. and you apparently can't see that either. I suppose you're also okay with the photo of BHO and don't see anything racist in that. Right?

    No, your arrogance on the topic implies it.
    You probably have nothing to be arrogant about. Don't blame me for that.

    You have absolutely no backing from women on this topic (and even one posted who said that she wasn't offended by it) and you are still insisting on perpetuating your twisted perceptions that the photo is demeaning to women in general.
    Actually we have no idea who is who on this board or how many women have seen the photo. Do you know? Perhaps you should take a survey and get some legitimate numbers, with a large enough response to make it statistically meaningful. But as it is you really don't have a clue.

    I've yet to see anyone back your assertions.
    And what does that mean to you? That there is security in numbers? You want to feel validated? You need someone to approve of your opinion?

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    Re: Proposed Law Would Criminalize ‘Misuse’ of Full-body Scanner Images

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    As we have no idea how many women have seen this photo or have seen this thread you really have no idea what the majority of women feel one way or the other. While you accuse me of trying to speak for all women you're doing the same thing in your denial, but haven't the wit to realize it..
    Nor do you. Yet, you insist on claiming that the photo is demeaning to all women. I notice you haven't said a thing about the fact that YourStar wasn't offended by it.

    You can post all the pictures you want and I'll feel free to comment if I choose to do so. And it is a political comment only in the most juvenile sense. It is using women as a sex object. and you apparently can't see that either. I suppose you're also okay with the photo of BHO and don't see anything racist in that. Right?
    I never said you couldn't comment. I agree it is juvenile, but it is also funny. You are still the only one who was offended by it. It isn't using women as a sex object. It is mocking a pose that one woman, Sarah Palin, had in a photo. I found the photo of Obama funny as well, because it is totally taking a piss out of the idiotic stereotypes about black people.

    Actually we have no idea who is who on this board or how many women have seen the photo. Do you know? Perhaps you should take a survey and get some legitimate numbers, with a large enough response to make it statistically meaningful. But as it is you really don't have a clue.
    I'm not the one making the assertion that it is demeaning to all women and that women should be offended by it. You still obviously don't get it. Let me repeat: YOU ARE STILL THE ONLY PERSON WHO GOT OFFENDED BY IT. Is that clear enough for you?

    And what does that mean to you? That there is security in numbers? You want to feel validated? You need someone to approve of your opinion?
    Again, I'm not the one making the assertion that it is demeaning to all women.

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    Re: Proposed Law Would Criminalize ‘Misuse’ of Full-body Scanner Images

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I am so sorry you are pissed off, Your Star. Why not get a good nights sleep and you'll feel much better in the morning.
    I truly hope that you are aware of the irony in your condescending post. It is far more demeaning than a stupid photo of Sarah Palin.

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    Re: Proposed Law Would Criminalize ‘Misuse’ of Full-body Scanner Images

    Actually, Grant... Maybe you should start a completely separate thread about how photos like the one in this thread are demeaning to women and give, in detail, your perceptions of what women should or shouldn't be offended by. We have veered way off topic as your perceptions of what women are offended by have absolutely zero to do with the topic.

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    Re: Proposed Law Would Criminalize ‘Misuse’ of Full-body Scanner Images

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Actually, Grant... Maybe you should start a completely separate thread about how photos like the one in this thread are demeaning to women and give, in detail, your perceptions of what women should or shouldn't be offended by. We have veered way off topic as your perceptions of what women are offended by have absolutely zero to do with the topic.
    And why didn't you say it was off topic when the photo of Sarah Palin was first introduced?

    Was it on topic then?

    Of course not. It was just a little bit of humour by and for the intellectually challenged.

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    Re: Proposed Law Would Criminalize ‘Misuse’ of Full-body Scanner Images

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    I never charge people of either being a fascist or a commie and agree with you that it lowers the level of discourse. That's what I'm getting at here. I assume you are not saying that because coarseness has been a part of the discussion for so long that we should ignore it when it happens. I think we should speak out against it, as I am doing in this case. If there are those who feel differently then let them defend their position.



    I know of no one who is making that claim.


    Okay, and I am smacking back. Is there a problem with that?


    Wow, this is a segue that makes no sense whatsoever!!!



    Well there are many things in this world that are more demeaning than Glen Beck also but that is not what this conversation all about.
    You've taken one naughty photo about invisible penises - and then used it as an excuse to call left-leaning folks illiterate.

    You then complain about the lowering of discourse.

    I was merely pointing out that one course photo that isn't intended to do anything but poke fun is relatively harmless and has a long-standing tradition (if not as vulgar as this particular photo).

    In comparison, Beck's continued rantings about Islamo-Commies taking over the world are utterly unfounded, but unlike this silly photo - ARE BEING BELIEVED.

    People believing falsehoods being spread by a man who is merely doing so for the purpose of making a buck are much more dangerous to our politics than a silly vulgar little photo.

    I agree with you about the coarseness of our politics. I'm just arguing that pointing your anger at one naughty little photo is the equivalent of stepping on one ant while ignoring the termite colony growing in your wall. There are much worse instances of what bothers you happening right in front of you.

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    Re: Proposed Law Would Criminalize ‘Misuse’ of Full-body Scanner Images

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post

    You've taken one naughty photo about invisible penises - and then used it as an excuse to call left-leaning folks illiterate.

    You then complain about the lowering of discourse.

    I was merely pointing out that one course photo that isn't intended to do anything but poke fun is relatively harmless and has a long-standing tradition (if not as vulgar as this particular photo).

    In comparison, Beck's continued rantings about Islamo-Commies taking over the world are utterly unfounded, but unlike this silly photo - ARE BEING BELIEVED.

    People believing falsehoods being spread by a man who is merely doing so for the purpose of making a buck are much more dangerous to our politics than a silly vulgar little photo.

    I agree with you about the coarseness of our politics. I'm just arguing that pointing your anger at one naughty little photo is the equivalent of stepping on one ant while ignoring the termite colony growing in your wall. There are much worse instances of what bothers you happening right in front of you.
    This is too far off topic to make any sense but, in any case, you'd have to point out something that Glen Beck said was false and then point out the people who believed the lie. You've done none of this.

    I'm using the photo as an example of the coarseness that has entered the political arena and am trying to make the case for the long term harm it can do. It is divisive and unnecessary, a great example of how juvenile the electorate has become. And of course it's really not funny at all.

    It might be worthwhile to begin a thread about one of Glen Beck's lies, it should be easy to find at least one mis-step because he's on the air almost every day, and then let the debate begin.

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    Re: Proposed Law Would Criminalize ‘Misuse’ of Full-body Scanner Images

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    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post

    This is too far off topic to make any sense but, in any case, you'd have to point out something that Glen Beck said was false and then point out the people who believed the lie. You've done none of this.

    I'm using the photo as an example of the coarseness that has entered the political arena and am trying to make the case for the long term harm it can do. It is divisive and unnecessary, a great example of how juvenile the electorate has become. And of course it's really not funny at all.

    It might be worthwhile to begin a thread about one of Glen Beck's lies, it should be easy to find at least one mis-step because he's on the air almost every day, and then let the debate begin.
    I don't really want to debate Beck (it's just too tiring) - so let's make it hypothetical. I'm sure you can agree that there are plenty of commentators out there who make up conspiracy theories about the other side and pretend said conspiracy theory is true and then use it to label their opponent.

    I'm much more concerned about this type of political coarseness than I am photoshops of Palin, Obama, Clinton, or whomever. These may be crass, but they're done for the purposes of a laugh.

    Spreading unfounded lies about your philosophical adversary and spreading fear for profit is much worse for our politics than naughty pictures.

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    Re: Proposed Law Would Criminalize ‘Misuse’ of Full-body Scanner Images

    Wow, how did we stray so far off topic for 8 pages?
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    Re: Proposed Law Would Criminalize ‘Misuse’ of Full-body Scanner Images

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post

    I don't really want to debate Beck (it's just too tiring) - so let's make it hypothetical. I'm sure you can agree that there are plenty of commentators out there who make up conspiracy theories about the other side and pretend said conspiracy theory is true and then use it to label their opponent.

    I'm much more concerned about this type of political coarseness than I am photoshops of Palin, Obama, Clinton, or whomever. These may be crass, but they're done for the purposes of a laugh.

    Spreading unfounded lies about your philosophical adversary and spreading fear for profit is much worse for our politics than naughty pictures.
    If you aren't interested in debating Beck then you shouldn't make claims and then refuse to debate the subject. Stick to the topic at hand.

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