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    Re: Miss. license plate proposed to honor KKK leader

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    you take things far too seriously. i live in the south, people here can be quite backward.
    That's anywhere.
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    Re: Miss. license plate proposed to honor KKK leader

    lets see if i follow this correctly...
    100 years before there was a Robert Byrd, there was Nathaniel Bedford Forrest. He grew up in a racially segregated south. he did some wicked bad things. At some point, later in his life and not for political expediency, he changed his views, mirroring what could be called societal growth. Should he be called to accounting for his actions? Of course. But can we make allowances for change? Apparently not.

    Then comes Robert Byrd. He also grew up in the south, embraced racial hatred, engaged as a leader of the Klan, then at some point changed. What motivated his change? Meh...who knows...who cares. he is held up as a hero. Why? Could it be because he had a (D) after his name that so readily causes some to see the good in him that they deny in a man who lived and died 100 years earlier in a much different time?

    If we truly stand on the shoulders of giants...then...what was Byrds excuse? If he was "such a man as this" then why wasnt he able to embrace the growth of "lesser" men from history instead of embrace the evil for a good portion of his adult life?
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    Re: Miss. license plate proposed to honor KKK leader

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    lets see if i follow this correctly...
    100 years before there was a Robert Byrd, there was Nathaniel Bedford Forrest. He grew up in a racially segregated south. he did some wicked bad things. At some point, later in his life and not for political expediency, he changed his views, mirroring what could be called societal growth. Should he be called to accounting for his actions? Of course. But can we make allowances for change? Apparently not.

    Then comes Robert Byrd. He also grew up in the south, embraced racial hatred, engaged as a leader of the Klan, then at some point changed. What motivated his change? Meh...who knows...who cares. he is held up as a hero. Why? Could it be because he had a (D) after his name that so readily causes some to see the good in him that they deny in a man who lived and died 100 years earlier in a much different time?

    If we truly stand on the shoulders of giants...then...what was Byrds excuse? If he was "such a man as this" then why wasnt he able to embrace the growth of "lesser" men from history instead of embrace the evil for a good portion of his adult life?
    Can I just say, definitively, that neither the founder of the KKK, nor Robert Byrd, need commemorative license plates?
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    Re: Miss. license plate proposed to honor KKK leader

    Robert Byrd
    *He is the only U.S. Senator to have opposed the nomination of both of the only two African-American Supreme Court justices - Thurgood Marshall and*Clarence Thomas. He was also a leader in the opposition to the nomination of Dr.*Condoleezza Rice*to the position of Secretary of State.

    *He opposed*President Clinton's efforts in 1993 to allow*gays*to serve in the military. Byrd opposes*affirmative action

    in*1964*he opposed the*Civil Rights Act*by*filibustering*it for 14 straight hours. He was against*U.S. President*Harry S. Truman's integration of the military. He opposed the nomination of*Thurgood Marshall*to the*United States Supreme Court*in*1967--he wrote to FBI director*J. Edgar Hoover, asking if there was information about Marshall's ties to Communists. Byrd lead the*segregationist*members of the Senate in opposition to Marshall's nomination.
    One could only assume that if Robert Byrd had been born 100 years sooner, that he would have been a slave owner, and that he would have fought with the south in the war against slavery.
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    Re: Miss. license plate proposed to honor KKK leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I was waiting for this.

    Nathan Bedford Forrest - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Like most Confederates during the Civil War, Nathan Bedford Forrest was a democrat. Your partisanship doth betray you sir.
    Aren't you one of those that everytime the past is brought up with regards to republicans and democrats that states the "Democrats" in the south prior to the civil rights movement were really just republicans of today?

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    Re: Miss. license plate proposed to honor KKK leader

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    you take things far too seriously. i live in the south, people here can be quite backward.
    Speak for yourself.

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    Re: Miss. license plate proposed to honor KKK leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Can I just say, definitively, that neither the founder of the KKK, nor Robert Byrd, need commemorative license plates?
    See...now THATS ok...

    FTR...I went to NBF HS in Jacksonville. Earlier in my academic career they bussed about 100 of us into the inner cities to attend EJ Butler, and in turn, they shipped a 100 inner city kids to Forrest. Because...THAT really helped us kids...

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