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    Re: Miss. license plate proposed to honor KKK leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Robert Byrd was a klansman when he was 20 years old, quit and then spent the rest of his life serving the people of WV regardless of race. Nathan Bedford Forest founded the KKK, quit long after it had become violent and made a few speeches on racial equality. Historical context has never been your strength
    No he didn't. Stop, please!!

    The KKK (the Klan) was formed by veterans of the Confederate Army in Pulaski, Tennessee in 1866 and soon expanded throughout the state and beyond. Forrest became involved sometime in late 1866 or early 1867. A common report is that Forrest arrived in Nashville in April 1867 while the Klan was meeting at the Maxwell House Hotel, probably at the encouragement of a state Klan leader, former Confederate general George Gordon. The organization had grown to the point where an experienced commander was needed, and Forrest fitted the bill. In Room 10 of the Maxwell, Forrest was sworn in as a member.

    Nathan Bedford Forrest - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    The founder of the KKK doesn't get sworn in, in room #10 of the Maxwell House Hotel.

    Byrd started his very own chapter.

    In the early 1940s, Byrd recruited 150 of his friends and associates to create a new chapter of the Ku Klux Klan.[9]

    According to Byrd, a Klan official told him, "You have a talent for leadership, Bob ... The country needs young men like you in the leadership of the nation." Byrd later recalled, "suddenly lights flashed in my mind! Someone important had recognized my abilities! I was only 23 or 24 years old, and the thought of a political career had never really hit me. But strike me that night, it did."[9] Byrd held the titles Kleagle (recruiter) and Exalted Cyclops.[9] When it came time to elect the "Exalted Cyclops", the top officer in the local Klan unit, Byrd won unanimously.[9]

    In 1944, Byrd wrote to segregationist Mississippi Senator Theodore G. Bilbo:[17]
    “ I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side ... Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds. ”

    — Robert C. Byrd, in a letter to Sen. Theodore Bilbo (D-MS), 1944

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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Miss. license plate proposed to honor KKK leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You would know. Mousolini's fascism never killed anybody right?
    Not in the sense that you're saying it did. That's like saying that FDR created death camps.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Miss. license plate proposed to honor KKK leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Relying on history from 60 years ago? What exatcly are you trying to prove? That Byrd was racist 60+ years ago? This has already been stated.


    so now not when he was 20, but for "some time 60 years ago"....


    tell me had segragation not been outlawed, what side would he have been on?

    didn't he personally filibuster it for 14 hours?
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    Re: Miss. license plate proposed to honor KKK leader

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No he didn't. Stop, please!!
    From the Mississippi Encyclopedia:

    The official reorganization of the Klan into a political and terrorist movement began in April 1867, when the state's Democratic Party leadership met in Nashville. An invitation sent by the Pulaski den to others in the state called for a gathering of members at the Maxwell House hotel, where Tennessee's conservative Democrats provided for greater control of an expanding KKK. A prescript established administrative protocols and emphasized the need for secrecy. Subsequently, former Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest was elected the first and only Grand Wizard. In 1868 a revised prescript declared the Klan the defender of the Constitution of the United States and the protector of the orphans and widows of Confederate dead. Klansmen were required to swear that they had never been members of the Union army, the Union League, or the Republican Party, and they supported re-enfranchising ex-Rebels and upholding the South's constitutional rights.
    The founder of the KKK doesn't get sworn in, in room #10 of the Maxwell House Hotel.
    You were saying?

    Byrd started his very own chapter.
    Already addressed. Do you have anything other than trolling left?
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    Re: Miss. license plate proposed to honor KKK leader

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    so now not when he was 20, but for "some time 60 years ago"....


    tell me had segragation not been outlawed, what side would he have been on?

    didn't he personally filibuster it for 14 hours?
    The funniest part, is that Forrest had black soldiers serving in his brigade and Robert Byrd refused to serve along side a black man.

    If folks stopped rading the PC version of history, I think the world would be much better off.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Miss. license plate proposed to honor KKK leader

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Not in the sense that you're saying it did. That's like saying that FDR created death camps.
    Ah I get it. He wasn't as bad as the other fascists you defend. He only killed Africans in concentration camps. Those don't count. Why am I not surprised you of all people would defend both Nathan Bedford and Moussolini? The evidence is getting thicker Tom.
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    Re: Miss. license plate proposed to honor KKK leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    From the Mississippi Encyclopedia:





    You were saying?



    Already addressed. Do you have anything other than trolling left?
    no link? That's plagiarism, isn't it? Hmm?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Miss. license plate proposed to honor KKK leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Ah I get it. He wasn't as bad as the other fascists you defend. He only killed Africans in concentration camps. Those don't count. Why am I not surprised you of all people would defend both Nathan Bedford and Moussolini? The evidence is getting thicker Tom.
    Except, he didn't build anymore concentration camps. No more than FDR did, anyway.

    I'm deffending historical accuracy. I'm not one of those swells that insist's on believing a bull**** version of history, just because I hate the person that the facts pertain to.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Miss. license plate proposed to honor KKK leader

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    so now not when he was 20, but for "some time 60 years ago"....
    Does it make a difference? Did Nathan Bedford spend the same time working for civil rights? Maybe 5-10 years? 20? How long?

    tell me had segragation not been outlawed, what side would he have been on?

    didn't he personally filibuster it for 14 hours?
    Alright, alright so just so we're clear. Let's say I concede that Byrd was still a racist even though quit the Klan and spent over half a century working towards civil rights. Can I also say that the Southern United states as a whole are still racist also due to their history? Think carefully about this question.
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    Re: Miss. license plate proposed to honor KKK leader

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Except, he didn't build anymore concentration camps. No more than FDR did, anyway.
    Your bull****ting is amazing. He did build concentration camps. In both Europe AND Africa.

    I'm deffending historical accuracy.
    You have to know what it is you're talking about first. You clearly don't.

    I'm not one of those swells that insist's on believing a bull**** version of history, just because I hate the person that the facts pertain to.
    On the contrary. You have defended Musolini and Forrest. Which makes your revisionism clear to everyone who has ever picked up a history book.
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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