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Should Supreme Court Justices Clarence Thomas, Elena Kagan Sit Out Health Care Case?

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Should Supreme Court Justices Clarence Thomas, Elena Kagan Sit Out Health Care Case?

Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas Should Sit Out On Health Care Case, Democrats Say - ABC News


Seventy-Four Democrats Say Justice Thomas Should Recuse Himself Because of Wife's Lobbying


Seventy-four House Democrats, led by New York Rep. Anthony Weiner, sent a letter to Justice Clarence Thomas Wednesday calling on him to sit out deliberations on the Affordable Care Act because of his wife's ties to a lobbying group that opposes the health care law.

"The appearance of a conflict of interest merits recusal under federal law," the letter said. "From what we have already seen, the line between your impartiality and you and your wife's financial stake in the overturn of healthcare reform is blurred."



By any means necessary...... other than by the rule of law I guess.
 
Re: Should Supreme Court Justices Clarence Thomas, Elena Kagan Sit Out Health Care Ca

It's stupid to suggest that Thomas recuse himself from ruling on Obamacare.
 
Re: Should Supreme Court Justices Clarence Thomas, Elena Kagan Sit Out Health Care Ca

It's stupid to suggest that Thomas recuse himself from ruling on Obamacare.

It isn't stupid. Justice Thomas can find himself bordering conflict of interests, so it a reasonable question. I personally don't think he should, but it still isn't a stupid question.
 
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It isn't stupid. Justice Thomas can find himself bordering conflict of interests, so it a reasonable question. I personally don't think he should, but it still isn't a stupid question.

The Dems are scared ****less of the final decision, so they're trying to rig the court. It's stupid. It's why they lost in November and why they'll lose even more seats in 2012.
 
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The Dems are scared ****less of the final decision, so they're trying to rig the court. It's stupid. It's why they lost in November and why they'll lose even more seats in 2012.

None of this changes the fact that Justice Thomas does find himself bordering conflict of interest though. Personally, I think that if either Justice Kagan or Thomas were to recuse themselves than the other should as well. Both are in gray areas about the bill.
 
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It isn't stupid. Justice Thomas can find himself bordering conflict of interests, so it a reasonable question. I personally don't think he should, but it still isn't a stupid question.

Gee I don't know .. should GE remove it's self from receiving any government funding …...President Obama's decision to tap General Electric Co. Chief Executive Jeffrey Immelt to lead an initiative on jobs and U.S. competitiveness

Wouldn't that be a conflict of interest as well?

Why not just get bold and call this for what it is, a political move to remove someone from judging the health care bill that those 74 democrats believe will vote against the health care bill … it's really that simple
 
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Gee I don't know .. should GE remove it's self from receiving any government funding …...President Obama's decision to tap General Electric Co. Chief Executive Jeffrey Immelt to lead an initiative on jobs and U.S. competitiveness

Wouldn't that be a conflict of interest as well?

Why not just get bold and call this for what it is, a political move to remove someone from judging the health care bill that those 74 democrats believe will vote against the health care bill … it's really that simple

And you know what? Five days before this story was written Senator Hatch said he thinks Justice Kagan should recuse herself as well. Is it political? Of course it is, both sides want a justice gone to help their side. But again none of this changes the fact that both Justices find themselves bordering conflict of interest for this case.
 
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By any means necessary...... other than by the rule of law I guess.

Do you just make this **** up? Nothing illegal done here. Nothing suggesting anything illegal. Nothing inappropriate with suggesting some one recuse themselves. In fact, this is a whole lotta nothing except information. Conspiracy theory nonsense is stupid.
 
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Do you just make this **** up? Nothing illegal done here. Nothing suggesting anything illegal. Nothing inappropriate with suggesting some one recuse themselves. In fact, this is a whole lotta nothing except information. Conspiracy theory nonsense is stupid.



What are you talking about?



Wiener and 74 democrats want to stack the SCOTUS deck by asking thomas to recuse himself. I think they are wrong for doing so. What's your problem?
 
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Thomas wouldn't know a conflict of interest if it stared him in the face...he'll just wait to see what Scalia will do and then will cast his vote accordingly.
 
Re: Should Supreme Court Justices Clarence Thomas, Elena Kagan Sit Out Health Care Ca

Do you just make this **** up? Nothing illegal done here. Nothing suggesting anything illegal. Nothing inappropriate with suggesting some one recuse themselves. In fact, this is a whole lotta nothing except information. Conspiracy theory nonsense is stupid.


Always representing DP with insightful, thoughtful and intelligent posts. The Rev. was obviously pointing out that the Progressives, are so afraid of SCOTUS nullifying Obamacare that they'll do whatever it takes to keep that from happening. Even going so far as to make a huge ruckus to try and pressure a sitting Justice to recuse himself over something rather trivial.
 
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What are you talking about?



Wiener and 74 democrats want to stack the SCOTUS deck by asking thomas to recuse himself. I think they are wrong for doing so. What's your problem?

Or they feel he has a conflict of interest. Not surprising since they are democrats you would see the sinister, even when it may not(probably isn't) there.
 
Re: Should Supreme Court Justices Clarence Thomas, Elena Kagan Sit Out Health Care Ca

Or they feel he has a conflict of interest. Not surprising since they are democrats you would see the sinister, even when it may not(probably isn't) there.




actually, wiener is a nice guy, met him before, doesn't mean that I think these 74 democrats aren't playing a partisan game trying to circumvent one of the three branches of government. :shrug:
 
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The Dems are scared ****less of the final decision, so they're trying to rig the court. It's stupid. It's why they lost in November and why they'll lose even more seats in 2012.

Correctomundo, and what we have here is the scumbags setting the stage for "Selected no elected" part duh(< I know it's deux, work with me).

When the SCOTUS knocks Bam Bam on his skinny loser ass, the cries of judicial activism and malfeasence will already be scripted.
 
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And you know what? Five days before this story was written Senator Hatch said he thinks Justice Kagan should recuse herself as well. Is it political? Of course it is, both sides want a justice gone to help their side. But again none of this changes the fact that both Justices find themselves bordering conflict of interest for this case.

Before Kagan was confirmed there was talk of her being recused from this and several other cases they expected to come up.
 
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No way should they Sit out the vote anymore than the Racist Sonia Sotomayor should. After all she owes Obama for her job on the Court.
 
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No way should they Sit out the vote anymore than the Racist Sonia Sotomayor should. After all she owes Obama for her job on the Court.

Obviously you think Roberts and Alito should've sat out every case that came before them while Bush was still in office then.
 
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By any means necessary...... other than by the rule of law I guess.

How lame, and how transparent? Doh.

This is beautiful, as 74 Dems have identified themselves in FULL support of ObamaKare and will use any means necessary to defend the crap foisted on the American public.

Usable against the Slim Shady's in the 2012 elections.

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I have to say, having a Supreme Court Justice with a wife who lobbies for a cause that will probably come before SCOTUS for resolution makes me go... *gulp!*
 
Re: Should Supreme Court Justices Clarence Thomas, Elena Kagan Sit Out Health Care Ca

Wife could always stop lobbying. Then he would definitely be free to continue on with the case for sure. None of this partisan BS.
 
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I have to say, having a Supreme Court Justice with a wife who lobbies for a cause that will probably come before SCOTUS for resolution makes me go... *gulp!*

Well that just makes you dishonest and willing to use any tactic to win.

Or you could just be worried about possible conflicts of interest...nah, that could never be it.

Seriously, I honestly think sometimes that conservatives believe that anything is worth doing to get what they want passed or defeated, that they just assume the whole rest of the world is as dishonest and lacking in honor as themselves.
 
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Well that just makes you dishonest and willing to use any tactic to win.

Or you could just be worried about possible conflicts of interest...nah, that could never be it.

Seriously, I honestly think sometimes that conservatives believe that anything is worth doing to get what they want passed or defeated, that they just assume the whole rest of the world is as dishonest and lacking in honor as themselves.

Whoa there, back up a step. First, I'm NOT a conservative. I think that the spouse of a Supreme Court Justice should actually NOT be a paid lobbyist for issues which might come up before SCOTUS because, yes, it is a conflict of interest. I honestly do not understand how you could label me as dishonest or lacking in honor. I don't believe Thomas should have ever been confirmed to SCOTUS in the first place... you see, I believed Anita.

Why have you attacked and insulted me? Seriously, I want to know because I don't understand.
 
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One of the reasons the SCOTUS is vetted to the levels they are and given a lifetime appointment is that it is expected that they be above bias. I know...its OBVIOUSLY not the case, with all 9 justices. Thats pretty sad. These should be the best and most unbiased legal minds in the country. When you reach the point you have been selected to the supreme court there should be no recusal.
 
Re: Should Supreme Court Justices Clarence Thomas, Elena Kagan Sit Out Health Care Ca

Whoa there, back up a step. First, I'm NOT a conservative. I think that the spouse of a Supreme Court Justice should actually NOT be a paid lobbyist for issues which might come up before SCOTUS because, yes, it is a conflict of interest. I honestly do not understand how you could label me as dishonest or lacking in honor. I don't believe Thomas should have ever been confirmed to SCOTUS in the first place... you see, I believed Anita.

Why have you attacked and insulted me? Seriously, I want to know because I don't understand.

Ive read both your comments...I think maybe you misread Reddress's comments.
 
Re: Should Supreme Court Justices Clarence Thomas, Elena Kagan Sit Out Health Care Ca

This thread clearly shows that some Conservatives do not understand what "conflict of interest" is.
 
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