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    Re: Should Supreme Court Justices Clarence Thomas, Elena Kagan Sit Out Health Care Ca

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    I think you confuse "they feel"'with "you feel".
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    Re: Should Supreme Court Justices Clarence Thomas, Elena Kagan Sit Out Health Care Ca

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    One of the reasons the SCOTUS is vetted to the levels they are and given a lifetime appointment is that it is expected that they be above bias. I know...its OBVIOUSLY not the case, with all 9 justices. Thats pretty sad. These should be the best and most unbiased legal minds in the country. When you reach the point you have been selected to the supreme court there should be no recusal.
    I know what you mean, but then again the Justices are human. It is why I think if either Justice Kagan or Thomas were to recuse themselves the other should as well. They both, in my mind, are in this very gray conflict of interests and if they both were to do it than the court would go to 3-3 with the decision still going to Justice Kennedy. Again I don't think they should, but if one does the other should.

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    Re: Should Supreme Court Justices Clarence Thomas, Elena Kagan Sit Out Health Care Ca

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    This thread clearly shows that some Conservatives do not understand what "conflict of interest" is.
    I think Ginni Thomas should be home, barefoot and pregnant.
    She should also stay completely away from any tea party rallys because her husband can't be trusted to rule without bias.
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    Re: Should Supreme Court Justices Clarence Thomas, Elena Kagan Sit Out Health Care Ca

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    Under federal law, justices have to recuse themselves from cases where they feel a conflict of interest may arise, or if their spouses have a financial stake in the case, but the decision ultimately rests with each justice.
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    Re: Should Supreme Court Justices Clarence Thomas, Elena Kagan Sit Out Health Care Ca

    Should Kennedy or anyone for that matter recuse themselves from a case on illegal immigration because thier partners have their nails and hair done by a shop that hires illegal aliens? Crude example, but you see where I'm going. In law a conflict of interest recusal motion places the burden of demonstrating a material need to remove the attending judge on the one bringing the motion.

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    Re: Should Supreme Court Justices Clarence Thomas, Elena Kagan Sit Out Health Care Ca

    Here is the way I see it:

    1) Both Thomas and Kagan have a clear conflict of interest here.

    2) Both Thomas and Kagan should recuse themselves.

    3) Whether they do or not doesn't matter, as far a ruling on the Affordable Health Care Act. One is a Liberal and the other is a Conservative. They cancel each other's vote, so the outcome will not be affected at all, whether they recuse themselves or not.

    4) Nonetheless, there is still a clear conflict of interest. They should both recuse themselves for the good of the nation and the judicial system. If they don't, then it will help to lend an appearance that the Supreme court is owned by Lobbyists who are fighting it out for their own interests, rather than doing their jobs for the American people.
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    Re: Should Supreme Court Justices Clarence Thomas, Elena Kagan Sit Out Health Care Ca

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Here is the way I see it:

    1) Both Thomas and Kagan have a clear conflict of interest here.

    2) Both Thomas and Kagan should recuse themselves.

    3) Whether they do or not doesn't matter, as far a ruling on the Affordable Health Care Act. One is a Liberal and the other is a Conservative. They cancel each other's vote, so the outcome will not be affected at all, whether they recuse themselves or not.

    4) Nonetheless, there is still a clear conflict of interest. They should both recuse themselves for the good of the nation and the judicial system. If they don't, then it will help to lend an appearance that the Supreme court is owned by Lobbyists who are fighting it out for their own interests, rather than doing their jobs for the American people.
    What's the clear conflict of interest for Thomas?
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    Re: Should Supreme Court Justices Clarence Thomas, Elena Kagan Sit Out Health Care Ca

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Well that just makes you dishonest and willing to use any tactic to win.

    Or you could just be worried about possible conflicts of interest...nah, that could never be it.

    Seriously, I honestly think sometimes that conservatives believe that anything is worth doing to get what they want passed or defeated, that they just assume the whole rest of the world is as dishonest and lacking in honor as themselves.
    Several Justices go to church too. Should they recuse themselves when it comes to issues concerning abortion?

    That Thomas should step down is the lamest of lame attempts to cut his opinion. He'll use the Constitution, and dare I say he won't invoke foreign law either.

    All about nothing. As if he'll decide for the good of his wife instead of looking at the Constitution.

    Nice (pathetic) try.

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    Re: Should Supreme Court Justices Clarence Thomas, Elena Kagan Sit Out Health Care Ca

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Whoa there, back up a step. First, I'm NOT a conservative. I think that the spouse of a Supreme Court Justice should actually NOT be a paid lobbyist for issues which might come up before SCOTUS because, yes, it is a conflict of interest. I honestly do not understand how you could label me as dishonest or lacking in honor. I don't believe Thomas should have ever been confirmed to SCOTUS in the first place... you see, I believed Anita.

    Why have you attacked and insulted me? Seriously, I want to know because I don't understand.
    I think you misunderstood(or I expressed poorly) what I was saying. I agreed with your comments.
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    Re: Should Supreme Court Justices Clarence Thomas, Elena Kagan Sit Out Health Care Ca

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    I know what you mean, but then again the Justices are human. It is why I think if either Justice Kagan or Thomas were to recuse themselves the other should as well. They both, in my mind, are in this very gray conflict of interests and if they both were to do it than the court would go to 3-3 with the decision still going to Justice Kennedy. Again I don't think they should, but if one does the other should.
    Im not saying you are wrong... but how sad is it that we are talking along these lines. I dont care what their personal bias is, the SOLE driving factor should be does it pass constitutional muster.

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