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    Egypt's Mubarak to step down

    From MSNBC:

    NBC News said a high-ranking source inside the president's office said that Mubarak would step down and the newly appointed vice president, Omar Suleiman, would take over. This was then confirmed by a second source.
    NBC News: Egypt's Mubarak to step down - World news - Mideast/N. Africa - msnbc.com

    Whether such a move occurs and, if it does, whether the protesters will accept the arrangement remains to be seen. There is a risk that at least some share of protesters will view VP Suleiman as part of the regime that they aimed to topple. That he has, at least so far, not been overly aggressive in terms of reforms and the timeframe might also raise concerns among some of the protesters.

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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak to step down

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
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    NBC News: Egypt's Mubarak to step down - World news - Mideast/N. Africa - msnbc.com

    Whether such a move occurs and, if it does, whether the protesters will accept the arrangement remains to be seen. There is a risk that at least some share of protesters will view VP Suleiman as part of the regime that they aimed to topple. That he has, at least so far, not been overly aggressive in terms of reforms and the timeframe might also raise concerns among some of the protesters.

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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak to step down

    This will only be good so long as the next leader of Egypt is not a supporter of terrorism or is anti-Israeli.
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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak to step down

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
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    NBC News: Egypt's Mubarak to step down - World news - Mideast/N. Africa - msnbc.com

    Whether such a move occurs and, if it does, whether the protesters will accept the arrangement remains to be seen. There is a risk that at least some share of protesters will view VP Suleiman as part of the regime that they aimed to topple. That he has, at least so far, not been overly aggressive in terms of reforms and the timeframe might also raise concerns among some of the protesters.
    This is great news, I almost posted this myself.
    NBC: Mubarak to step down tonight, veep to take over -


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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak to step down

    Apparently, things might not be quite as clear as MNSBC reported. According to a reuters breaking news story, Egypt's information minister suggested that President Mubarak is not stepping down. If, in fact, that latter account is accurate, then it is possible that President Mubarak may cede decision making authority while seeking to retain the title of President for symbolic purposes through the duration of his term. It is unlikely that such an arrangement would satisfy the protesters. IMO, he either has to try to retain power through the duration of his term (deeply unsatisfactory to the protesters) or cede it (possibly satisfactory, though the protesters might not be satisfied with VP Suleiman's heading the government). A middle course would only muddy things and be viewed by the protesters as an attempt to retain power through deception. That middle course could actually prove to be the worst course of all if the protestors believe it is a deceptive one, as any trust in Egypt's officials/institutions could be shattered.
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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak to step down

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Apparently, things might not be quite as clear as MNSBC reported. According to a reuters breaking news story, Egypt's information minister suggested that President Mubarak is not stepping down. If, in fact, that latter account is accurate, then it is possible that President Mubarak may cede decision making authority while seeking to retain the title of President for symbolic purposes through the duration of his term. It is unlikely that such an arrangement would satisfy the protesters. IMO, he either has to try to retain power through the duration of his term (deeply unsatisfactory to the protesters) or cede it (possibly satisfactory, though the protesters might not be satisfied with VP Suleiman's heading the government). A middle course would only muddy things and be viewed by the protesters as an attempt to retain power through deception. That middle course could actually prove to be the worst course of all if the protestors believe it is a deceptive one, as any trust in Egypt's officials/institutions could be shattered.
    They have existing trust in Egypt's officials/institutions to be shattered?

    I am pretty sure that getting Mubarak removed is only step 1 of a 2 step plan for the protesters. Step 2 is to reform the government. All parties should have seats at that table.

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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak to step down

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    This will only be good so long as the next leader of Egypt is not a supporter of terrorism or is anti-Israeli.
    Which is a long shot.
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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak to step down

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Which is a long shot.
    Do you have a suggestion?
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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak to step down

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Do you have a suggestion?
    Sure don't. It's just going to turn into a masssive goat **** and there's not much we can do to prevent it.
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    Re: Egypt's Mubarak to step down

    Another account of developments from The Jerusalem Post:

    The military's supreme council was meeting Thursday, without the commander in chief Mubarak, and announced on state TV its "support of the legitimate demands of the people." A spokesman read a statement that the council was in permanent session to explore "what measures and arrangements could be made to safeguard the nation, its achievements and the ambitions of its great people."

    The statement was labeled "communique number 1," a phrasing that suggests a military coup.


    Notably absent was Vice President Suleiman.

    Right now, little is certain in terms of exact details except that some kind of transition is now underway in Egypt. Whether the transition is voluntary for President Mubarak remains to be certain. Perhaps that is what the Information Minister was hinting at. If, in fact, the Army is moving the transition, it is entirely possible that someone other than VP Suleiman might, in fact, temporarily hold power. Nonetheless, uncertain as details might be, the transition is not likely to see the Egypt-Israel peace treaty overturned or Egypt's major international relationships dramatically altered.

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