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U.S. official: Bin Laden no longer greatest threat

In the new multicultural America each separate vision of America is deemed legitimate. Shared consciousness and identity are no longer de riguer.




uhm. I'd ask you what the hell you were talking about, but then you might take it that I give a crap.
 
uhm. I'd ask you what the hell you were talking about, but then you might take it that I give a crap.

Of course you give a crap. Otherwise you wouldn't be posting on my thread.

You have one vision of America based on your culture. Anwar al Awlaki has a different vision of America based on his culture. Many other Americans have differing views of what America should be based on their own cultural visions. In multicultural America where assimilation is dead, who is to say which view is correct? No one. But I appreciate your interest in the subject by your continued posts on this thread.
 
Of course you give a crap. Otherwise you wouldn't be posting on my thread.

you sure about that?



You have one vision of America based on your culture. Anwar al Awlaki has a different vision of America based on his culture. Many other Americans have differing views of what America should be based on their own cultural visions. In multicultural America where assimilation is dead, who is to say which view is correct? No one. But I appreciate your interest in the subject by your continued posts on this thread.


I crossed out the nonsense I noticed in your post.
 
Prove it, please. I want to believe, really I do. But frankly, you have absolutely no evidence to support your claims.

Why don't you use your brain instead of waiting for information to be spoon fed to you? A simple google search will provide more than enough details for you to skim over.

The intelligence community which includes the CIA have not been actively hunting him for many years now. He was reported dead by a Pakistani news agency years ago. Maybe we don't want to believe it because it wasn't the eyes of a U.S. soldier that saw it, but a top Taliban officer even confirmed it. These are people who rely on radical leadership to stay grounded. Do you think the Taliban and Al Qaeda would want to reveal that and dishearten everyone?

Why would someone as narcissistic as Bin Laden who loves to videotape himself, stop doing it? Either the most powerful man in Al Qaeda suddenly lost access to video equipment, or he isn't in a condition to appear on camera, i.e. he is dead. The next best thing is that he is in a sick or weakened state and appearing on camera would be a bad idea, in which case he is on his way out anyway, i.e. dead.
 
Why don't you use your brain instead of waiting for information to be spoon fed to you? A simple google search will provide more than enough details for you to skim over.

You made the claim. It's your responsibility to support it with evidence or say, "My gut tells me so." It's not my job to scour the internet trying to provide evidence for your claim. Now that I know you respond to polite requests to back up your claim with rudeness and defensive rambling, I'll not bother with the "polite" part the next time you try to pass off personal speculation as fact.
 
The republicans seem to be taking a turn away from being a big government party.

The most important word in your quote is "seem". That is they seem to be taking a turn away from big government UNTIL they get in power. Then the rules SEEM to change. Not saying dems don't do the say thing either.
 
Let's not forget about Anwar Al-Awlaki (A-lackey)
EXCLUSIVE: Al Qaeda Leader Dined at the Pentagon Just Months After 9/11 - FoxNews.com

Now, let's say you or I went to the pentagon... do you think that you would be allowed to eat in their cafeteria?? Nevermind the type of clout needed to be dined by top brass at the pentagon. Since then, he's caused :
- Shoe bomber : emails exchanged telling him what to get and how to do it.
- Underwear bomber ; Also thought that you could ignite plastic explosives without a blasting cap, or special ignitor,
- Fort Hood shooter : was in email communication with awlaki for, if memory serves, YEARS before the attack
- New york square failure : ....

The point is... awlaki is a terrorist instigator, puts people in the right place, and MEANWHILE providing a 'direct connection' to 'al-quaida' and justification to expand the wars in some form.

House Fails to Reauthorize Patriot Act
This happened THE DAY BEFORE Mr Napolitano goes on tv and threatening a new 9-11, in not so many words, if the patriot act does not continue.

You know what I see the OP is : The system PANIC stricken because one of their great tools just about got shot down... those coward politicians caved real quick and got it passed in a regular vote. There are at least 3 articles in the bill of rights that would be reinstated if the patriot act is gone...and two others would be significantly more important.

Do you know how many government bureaucrats would be forced out of their jobs, if they weren't being paid to violate the constitution in some way??

So, of course they bring out the next shadowy many with a beard and turbin that wants to kill everyone if we don't concede defeat to the terrorirsts then the terrorists will win. (I hope you spot the intentional double-speak) BUt seriously, if anyone had seen that fox article first, soon after it happened.... it's like a scene from those cheezy horror movies where you yell at the tv cause you know the girl is walking to her death... you see something like this and it's like 'woah, this is big if it can get off the ground'... so, it wasn't a stretch that the a-lackey card would get played.

But didn't she ALSO make the connection that he was recruiting 'white al-quaida'?? Like that's some sort of real thing...then again, 'the ace of lackeys' probably has a whole team of half-brain dead patsies to roll out in various attacks that are enough of a threat to be taken serious, but performed by incompetents in such a way that they remain very low intensity, low casualties.

Ahh... crap... let me know what parts I didn't adequately source in there...
 
That's the talking point of the week to try and push more muslim hatred...


Multiracial and multi-religious societies can survive. They have what is called hybrid vigor. Each new flavor is added to the melting pot and infuses the whole to create something new and united. I have seen this in my own bi-racial family.

Multicultural societies are different than multiracial and multi-religious societies. Multicultural elements never go into the melting pot. They instead maintain their divisions. Division produces disunity and separation. That is what Merkel of Germany, Cameron of Britain and Sarkozy of France have in effect said.

The All-American Boy Anwar al Awlaki is the poster child of multiculturalism. Born on American soil. Raised on American soil. Attended American public schools. The natural objects of his affection should have been fellow Americans.

But that didn't happen. Why? Is it because he wasn't assimilated? Is it because he never developed any modicum of a shared consciousness with fellow Americans?

Anwar al Awlaki and US Army Major Nidal Hasan are examples of the failure of multiculturalism and cultural relativism. There will be more evidence of such failures as time passes. Multiculturalism will increasingly be on the defensive.
 
You made the claim. It's your responsibility to support it with evidence or say, "My gut tells me so." It's not my job to scour the internet trying to provide evidence for your claim. Now that I know you respond to polite requests to back up your claim with rudeness and defensive rambling, I'll not bother with the "polite" part the next time you try to pass off personal speculation as fact.

It's not speculation. Speculation means you have no idea or basis. I have a very clear idea, based on reports on and research. It is an educated assumption, one of that most people, from the military, to the diplomatic core (of which I am a part), to the intelligence community, have reason to believe basically true. No it has not been announced, because there is no body... but the intelligence community has assumed for a while that he is dead. It's insider information, not a news bit that I can provide you evidence for.

You want to be spoon fed a nice tidy newsbit and until you see it, you're going to believe that the war on terror still has anything to do with Bin Laden. I'm not being rude, I am being factual, both about the reality of this war and about your obvious disposition to it. Sorry that you are so easily offended.
 
Multiracial and multi-religious societies can survive. They have what is called hybrid vigor. Each new flavor is added to the melting pot and infuses the whole to create something new and united. I have seen this in my own bi-racial family.
But that didn't happen. Why? Is it because he wasn't assimilated? Is it because he never developed any modicum of a shared consciousness with fellow Americans?

Anwar al Awlaki and US Army Major Nidal Hasan are examples of the failure of multiculturalism and cultural relativism. There will be more evidence of such failures as time passes. Multiculturalism will increasingly be on the defensive.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...longer-greatest-threat-11.html#post1059282091

No, Anwar al-awlaki is something much more sinister then evidence of 'failures of multiculturalism'... and you might want to consider how long anyone was aware of the fact that there was a discussion going on between the two.

ALSO, look at the underwear bomber, awlaki was involved in that too... BUT, the eyewitnesses there describe "a sharp dressed man" that got the bomber on the plane without ANY ID.


It's not speculation. Speculation means you have no idea or basis. I have a very clear idea, based on reports on and research. It is an educated assumption, one of that most people, from the military, to the diplomatic core (of which I am a part), to the intelligence community, have reason to believe basically true. No it has not been announced, because there is no body... but the intelligence community has assumed for a while that he is dead. It's insider information, not a news bit that I can provide you evidence for.

You want to be spoon fed a nice tidy newsbit and until you see it, you're going to believe that the war on terror still has anything to do with Bin Laden. I'm not being rude, I am being factual, both about the reality of this war and about your obvious disposition to it. Sorry that you are so easily offended.

Well, I couldn't say for certain whether bin laden is dead, in the 'spytalk' column of the washington post, they talked about faking at least one bin laden video using their staff members, as well as filming a 'gay Hussein'... SO, I don't put any real credibility in really any of the video / audio tapes on the subject.

I do agree with you that what the 'war on terror' is all about is VERY DIFFERENT from what it was sold as to the american people.

Example : - Iraq was selling TOO MUCH oil through back room deals and was keeping prices artificially low (to the extent that Iraq represents an influence on overall price)
- Taliban banned heroin poppies and nearly eradicated the entire crop... the numbers I've heard were as much as 16TIMES previous records since 2001.
- In the US, there's been a drastic increase in 'police / security presence'... with legal justification for much more then is being currently done.

That said, it's pretty much established fact that bin laden was funded since as far back as the 80's, covertly through the ISI, or other organizations... and anwar al-awlaki has reportedly been wined and dined at the pentagon in the months following 9-11, AND THEN since that time he's gone from a muslim cleric to a terrorist organizer... and NOBODY seems to care enough to make the connection.
 
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