Page 2 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 34

Thread: Toddlers' Junk-Food Diet May Lead to Lower IQ

  1. #11
    Sage
    Taylor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    US
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:36 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    6,170

    Re: Toddlers' Junk-Food Diet May Lead to Lower IQ

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I kind of wonder how much validity there is to this study. Are they just looking at what all these people had in common and are just trying to pin it on junk food? Is there some chemicals in the junk food known to cause stupidity?
    Yeah, just based on the description in Time - the "study" isn't very convincing. They ran a bunch of regression analyses on an existing dataset and statistically controlled for what variables they could: "The association persisted even after researchers controlled for other environmental factors that can influence IQ, such as parental education level, maternal diet in pregnancy, socioeconomic status and stressful life events."

    So, just looking at children of parents with high education and social status -- should we really assume that the ones who feed their kids junk are no different than those who feed their kids healthy diets? Should we assume that the parent who provides mcdonalds and tv dinners nonetheless reads to their child and fosters their intellectual development to the same degree as the parent who provides healthy meals? That is what the researchers would have us believe.

    Also - It's not clear how a "unit increase in processed food" translates into real world consumption, but a 1.67 point drop in IQ is not that much.

  2. #12
    Wrinkly member
    Manc Skipper's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Southern England
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:06 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Liberal
    Posts
    23,165

    Re: Toddlers' Junk-Food Diet May Lead to Lower IQ

    The study is a longitudinal study of a cohort of 14,000 kids born in Bristol in the 1991 and 92,so they're almost 20 now.

    Bristol University | Avon Longitudinal Study of Parents and Children | Working towards a better life for future generations

    Essentially kids fed a crap processed diet miss out on the vitamins and minerals associated with fresh food, especially fruit and vegetables, and particularly when brain growth is at its maximum, around 3 years.
    Last edited by Manc Skipper; 02-08-11 at 04:22 PM.
    Don't work out, work in.

    Never eat anything that's served in a bucket.

  3. #13
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    My own world
    Last Seen
    04-05-11 @ 10:39 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    407

    Re: Toddlers' Junk-Food Diet May Lead to Lower IQ

    When I was a kid I got McDonalds once or twice a year, at most. My mother made my lunch every day and I got milk money.

    Government has NO BUSINESS feeding kids at school. None.

  4. #14
    Cheese
    Aunt Spiker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Sasnakra
    Last Seen
    09-10-16 @ 06:10 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    28,433

    Re: Toddlers' Junk-Food Diet May Lead to Lower IQ

    Actually - fresh fruits and veggies are terribly OVER hyped. It's been shown that consuming frozen produce is the only way to ENSURE you get those essential nutrients. The reason is because the moment a ripened vegetable is picked it begins to lose nutrients - they break down naturally by the vegetable to "stay fresh" (so to speak) and ripen.
    So - after a few days of processing and shipping - it's reduced. A few more days on the shelf - it's reduced further. and then even more days in your fridge at home reduces it even more - in the end, some nutrients are depleted by over half.

    Fresh is more expensive and sometimes without the significant health benefits that people tout them for.
    Frozen is by far more economical and more nutritious.

    I buy fresh fruits for everyone to snack on - I only buy frozen veggies to cook with dinner. . . Several bags of frozen veggies to last 2 weeks puts me back maybe $10 - $15 *if* that much (for a family of 6) . .. and it's always plentiful.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Gein View Post
    When I was a kid I got McDonalds once or twice a year, at most. My mother made my lunch every day and I got milk money.

    Government has NO BUSINESS feeding kids at school. None.
    So the government shouldn't try to care for it's people - gotcha.
    Last edited by Aunt Spiker; 02-08-11 at 04:45 PM.
    A screaming comes across the sky.
    It has happened before, but there is nothing to compare it to now.
    Pynchon - Gravity's Rainbow

  5. #15
    Sage
    j-mac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    South Carolina
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 03:46 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    30,272

    Re: Toddlers' Junk-Food Diet May Lead to Lower IQ

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    So the government shouldn't try to care for it's people - gotcha.
    I thought we were a free society?


    j-mac
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

    Alexis de Tocqueville

  6. #16
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    My own world
    Last Seen
    04-05-11 @ 10:39 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    407

    Re: Toddlers' Junk-Food Diet May Lead to Lower IQ

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post

    So the government shouldn't try to care for it's people - gotcha.
    It's people?

    Yes, Nanny State just loves her little chilruns, huh?

    Give me a break.

  7. #17
    long standing member
    justabubba's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:31 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    36,129

    Re: Toddlers' Junk-Food Diet May Lead to Lower IQ

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Yeah, just based on the description in Time - the "study" isn't very convincing. They ran a bunch of regression analyses on an existing dataset and statistically controlled for what variables they could: "The association persisted even after researchers controlled for other environmental factors that can influence IQ, such as parental education level, maternal diet in pregnancy, socioeconomic status and stressful life events."

    So, just looking at children of parents with high education and social status -- should we really assume that the ones who feed their kids junk are no different than those who feed their kids healthy diets?
    based on the study results, yes
    Should we assume that the parent who provides mcdonalds and tv dinners nonetheless reads to their child and fosters their intellectual development to the same degree as the parent who provides healthy meals?
    i did not see where that analysis and comparison was conducted. would you please point out where that was addressed
    That is what the researchers would have us believe.
    until you point it out in the study i have to insist that you made up such a comparison

    Also - It's not clear how a "unit increase in processed food" translates into real world consumption, but a 1.67 point drop in IQ is not that much.
    to me - and for our general population - i believe the loss of almost two IQ points would be a significant loss of cognitive ability. but we have different opinions. i have no difficulty understanding that an increase in processed food has deleterious effects. but then i was not fed much processed food as a youngster ... perhaps not losing those two IQ points was the difference which allows me to comprehend what was written
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

  8. #18
    Cheese
    Aunt Spiker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Sasnakra
    Last Seen
    09-10-16 @ 06:10 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    28,433

    Re: Toddlers' Junk-Food Diet May Lead to Lower IQ

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I thought we were a free society?


    j-mac
    How does the government feeding some children prevent us from being free?

    If I give my sister's children enough food to eat over the weekend am I enslaving them somehow?
    A screaming comes across the sky.
    It has happened before, but there is nothing to compare it to now.
    Pynchon - Gravity's Rainbow

  9. #19
    Doesn't go below juicy
    tacomancer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Cleveland
    Last Seen
    05-20-16 @ 02:42 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    31,781

    Re: Toddlers' Junk-Food Diet May Lead to Lower IQ

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    How does the government feeding some children prevent us from being free?

    If I give my sister's children enough food to eat over the weekend am I enslaving them somehow?
    Yes because they achieve less than they otherwise would have if they were desperate and hungry, but free!!! (or so the anti-welfare logic goes)

  10. #20
    Banned
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Redneck Riviera
    Last Seen
    07-09-11 @ 06:11 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    28,728

    Re: Toddlers' Junk-Food Diet May Lead to Lower IQ

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I don't know how parents can let their kids eat that crap. It's not like they get to choose what to eat for themselves, just feed them healthy food for goodness sakes.
    At about age 2.5-3, kids get pretty defined ideas about what they want to eat. Once they've tasted junk food, they want it again and again. We had many fights with my daughter and son, both, when they were 3. My rule was that they could not get up from the table until they'd tried what we were having for dinner. French fries and chicken nuggets were banned from my house. They were never given those as an option, so they never got hooked on them, like a lot of kids these days do. They might occasionally get Kraft Mac & Cheese, made with skim milk and no butter. My daughter and son basically ate what we were eating, which was healthy food made from scratch and lots of vegetables. My daughter's idea of junk food is spaghetti and lowfat turkey meatballs. My son, on the other hand, is addicted to McDonald's because his dad takes him there ALL THE TIME. Ugh.

    Most of the adults I know did not choose that route with their children (forcing them to eat healthy food), and instead allowed the children to dictate what they would eat. Their kids eat almost nothing but chicken nuggets and fries. I'm not even exaggerating.

    It's hard to get your kids to eat healthy and like it, particularly in the toddler years. They will reject ANY unfamiliar food (or even food that they haven't had in the past week). You have to work at it.
    Last edited by Catz Part Deux; 02-08-11 at 05:15 PM.

Page 2 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •