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    Re: Obama says people who hate him don't know him

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Just like you guys did Bush, eh?
    Just like your guys bitched at them for not doing, eh?

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    Re: Obama says people who hate him don't know him

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    No, he works for the people. His decisions should be based on what they want for the country, not his vision of what he wants the country to be.
    Then how do you rectify in your mind the strict adherance to the plans for the War in Iraq back when the poll numbers showed a majority of people upset with it and wanting it to end?

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    Re: Obama says people who hate him don't know him

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    /facepalm

    It's almost like you think he sits in his office and dictates everything he wants on a whim...

    And you feel like the only people who inhabit your country, are people with your views and he's the only person of 300 million people that has his views...
    You accuse one side, when the other side did the same thing when Bush was in office.

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    Re: Obama says people who hate him don't know him

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    You accuse one side, when the other side did the same thing when Bush was in office.
    It's called real life

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    Politics.

    I expect this kind of crap, but what use is it to tell the Jet "Waaaah! The other side did it!!!!"

    Who the **** cares what "the other side" did? I'm not the "other side" and I was never "the other side" so what "they did" does not have anything to do with me.

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    Re: Obama says people who hate him don't know him

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Just like you guys did Bush, eh?
    I did always try to, yes. And I think many did. But I found your side prefered not to. The war was a policy. So was tortuing. So was spying on citizens. These were policies.

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    Re: Obama says people who hate him don't know him

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I would love to see just one conservative, just one, argue that history will be the judge of Obama's policies like so many of them did for Bush.
    Ask and ye shall receive!

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Absolutely agree here. I by no means am a fan of Obama, and think he's done a number of things that are not going to be good for the country in the long run. That said, its ridiculous to start slapping the "worst" or "greatest" ever line on people in less than 20 years after they've been gone. To truly determine such you've got to honestly and objectively look at the scope of their actions and time in office and see what materialized and what didn't.
    God bless you, Zyph. There's a good reason you are one of my all-time favorite conservatives around here.

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    Re: Obama says people who hate him don't know him

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    No...he didn't. He will be remembered well one day.

    Never has a president been attacked with such unwarranted vitriole as Bush.
    Maybe with a enough drugs and revisionist history (or dementia), but I doubt there are that many drugs in the world.

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    Re: Obama says people who hate him don't know him

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Maybe with a enough drugs and revisionist history (or dementia), but I doubt there are that many drugs in the world.


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    Re: Obama says people who hate him don't know him

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Then how do you rectify in your mind the strict adherance to the plans for the War in Iraq back when the poll numbers showed a majority of people upset with it and wanting it to end?
    Same way I rectify in my mind the fact that Obama is doing the same thing. I don't.
    However, I would argue that there were fewer people against Irag than has been portrayed.
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    Re: Obama says people who hate him don't know him

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Absolutely agree here. I by no means am a fan of Obama, and think he's done a number of things that are not going to be good for the country in the long run. That said, its ridiculous to start slapping the "worst" or "greatest" ever line on people in less than 20 years after they've been gone. To truly determine such you've got to honestly and objectively look at the scope of their actions and time in office and see what materialized and what didn't. We live in such an immediete justification world, and one that is so hyper partisan, people are always to quick to leap and make historical absolutes about people without any honest and legitimate means of doing it.

    Its ridiculous to accuse George Bush, Barack Obama, or hell Bill clinton, as being the worst or the best President ever. Its just too short of a time period to accurately do such. You may suggest that you think in the end they will, or that you think history will end up judging it in one way or another, but to answer it as some kind of unquestionable absolute is poor foolishness.

    Which is why I'm shocked, utterly shocked, that some of the biggest hyper partisan party/ideology line hacks we have on the entire site are doing just that. Shocked I tell you.
    Jimmy Carter would be tough to out-do on the "worst" scale. I'll give you that.

    I will say this. Never has a president been this over his head before, given the complicated times we live in. His paper-thin resume is constantly obvious.

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