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    Re: Immigration probe of Chipotle widens

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    Walk a mile in an employer's shoes in THE MOST BUSINESS UNFRIENDLY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD and you would know the answer...........

    ......perhaps you see this "one more step", 10,000 steps later, as the solution to our Illegal Immigrant infestation.....it is not.....its just another burden for legal employers. You must realize.....a large portion of Illegals in this country work under the table and off the books.....a majority of them work in industries with such a high turnover rate, the in depth background checks you desire are never going to be the norm. Were talking about burger flippers, tomato pickers, and burrito wrappers........not Bank Executives, Police Officers, Management, ect. positions where it would make sense for an employer to spend the time and money needed to verify a potential employees identity and credentials.

    The whole premis of your argument falls on the notion that "They wouldnt come here if they didnt have jobs"......and to that argument I say this.....

    ..........WE JUST HAD ONE OF THE LARGEST RECESSIONS IN US HISTORY.........with a loss of jobs never before seen in this country.......and guess what......10-20 million Illegal Immigrants didnt pack their bags and head home. As I said before, if you want to fine employers so be it......then fine the landlords, mortgage companies, the utility companies, and everyone else who aids the infestation.

    We can all be Border Agents........and do the job the government just wont do.
    An employer can not be that over burdened if he can do credit checks on employees,criminal back grounds, check to see if that employee is who they say they are, piss test employees, and a check of an employees credentials. You are just as the pro-illegals fear mongers who say that the price of tomatoes will soar to nine dollars a pound if farmers have to hire legal workers.



    We dont need to fine employers.
    Yes we do. We also need to throw their asses in prison, and confiscate their assets and property.

    ....we dont need any additional LAWS and REGULATIONS.
    We already have laws on the books that say employers can be fined, jailed, lose assets and property.

    FAIR: The Law Against Hiring or Harboring Illegal Aliens
    A person (including a group of persons, business, organization or local government) commits a federal felony when he:

    * assists an alien whom he should reasonably know is illegally in the U.S. or who lacks employment authorization, by transporting, sheltering, or assisting him to obtain employment,
    * encourages that alien to remain in the U.S., by referring him to an employer, by acting as employer or agent for an employer in any way, or
    * knowingly assists illegal aliens due to personal convictions.

    Penalties upon conviction include criminal fines, imprisonment, and forfeiture of vehicles and real property used to commit the crime.

    Anyone employing or contracting with an illegal alien without verifying his work authorization status is guilty of a misdemeanor. Aliens and employers violating immigration laws are subject to arrest, detention, and seizure of their vehicles or property.



    ......we simply need the government, Border Patrol, and ICE to do its job for the first time in 40 years.
    We need a combination of things to fix our illegal immigration problems.

    From the news today.......

    10 years after he was ordered deported........

    ..........if only we would have fined his employer huh?
    He didn't come to the US because he planned on killing 3 people ten years later after being ordered to be deported.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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    Re: Immigration probe of Chipotle widens

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Employers who knowingly hire illegals should obviously be punished, but let's stop acting as if they are the problem and their punishment is the only solution to the problem.
    It's not the only solution... How am I acting like it is?

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    Re: Immigration probe of Chipotle widens

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyroh View Post
    I've noticed a lot of focus being on employers of illegal immigrants, and illegal immigrants themselves. when you are discussing a law that everyone is required to follow, i think it's also important to look at the implications of legal residents and their employers.

    If i'm going to hire a neighbor for the summer to work for my cement company, i now have to provide a ton of personal information on him to the government. how about a form to fill out to make sure i don't hire a drug user, or a thief, or a murderer.

    while i agree that people shouldn't be allowed to employ people people illegally, we do have a notion in this country of innocent before proven guilty. please remember this when your fears of foreign invaders brings you to lessen the value your freedoms.
    I have always been asked if I have been convicted of a felon or drug trafficking on a job application... but I am not sure why the government should get involved with making sure such people don't have employment opportunities because of their past...

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    Re: Immigration probe of Chipotle widens

    In regard to illegal aliens and employers who break the law, I have one trite statement to make.......

    It takes two to tango.

    So, why don't we remove BOTH partners from the dance? It's the only logical solution.
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