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    Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    I'll have to wait for the British reaction to weight the cost benefit analysis.
    you have to wait?

    LOL!

    for the reaction of our most reliable ally?

    to their being deceived and bargained away with no say?

    go for it, take your time

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    Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets

    The Cold War is over, why does anyone seriously think a Russian nuclear strike is a threat anymore?

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    Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets

    different topic, same theme:

    "What was our plan for transition for our friend? Did we ever talk to him about it, encourage him? That's my view; character and planning. I feel shame about this. I feel ashamed as an American, the way we're doing this. I know he has the change. I know we're for democracy, but the way we've handled it is not the way a friend handles the matter. We're not handling it the way Americans should handle matters like this. I don't feel right about it. And Barack Obama, as much I support him in many ways, there is a transactional quality to the guy that is chilling. I believe in relationships. I think we all do. Relationship politics is what we were brought up with in this country. You treat your friends a certain way. You're loyal to them. And When they're wrong, you try to be with them, you try to stick with them."
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    Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    The Cold War is over, why does anyone seriously think a Russian nuclear strike is a threat anymore?
    Nations maintain military secrets so that their enemies don't know them. Let me paraphrase Sun Tzu: "Know your enemy and know yourself and you need not fear the outcome of a hundred battles." That is the same reason the Chinese military is not transparent.

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    Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets

    you have to wait?

    LOL!

    for the reaction of our most reliable ally?

    to their being deceived and bargained away with no say?

    go for it, take your time
    We did a lot worse to the British in '54 over the Suez crisis and it didn't get that ugly. It is possible that nobody will get terribly worked up over this incident. The emotional feeling of betrayal is certainly their, but there isn't any actual damage from the information. If the British say "those lousy American's are a bunch of lying weasels, the next time they start an idiotic war they can go it alone", that would end up being positive in the long run. That said, Obama was still an idiot for authorizing this. The sensible thing to do would be negotiate a fair exchange for the information, not stab your ally in the back and then get your bad behavior aired to the world.

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    Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    I'm going to take the unusual step of siding with my conservative colleagues.

    If this turns out to be true, **** Barack Obama.

    Right or wrong our boys have died alongside yours in Iraq and Afghanistan, we committed to help you, and now Obama has turned around and screwed us.

    I am half British, and I will not stand for this crap.

    I thought we were allies man, this ain't cool. (this obviously not directed at you).
    My response was to the idea that this will somehow get people killed or whatever bull**** he was spouting.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    My response was to the idea that this will somehow get people killed or whatever bull**** he was spouting.
    I will agree with that.

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    Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    My response was to the idea that this will somehow get people killed or whatever bull**** he was spouting.
    Because as the last 100 years have taught us, allies never go to war, and countries at peace stay at peace and we can predict the future!
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    Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Because as the last 100 years have taught us, allies never go to war, and countries at peace stay at peace and we can predict the future!
    Vicchio, the idea that the United Kingdom and the United States could go to war, is one of the most rediculous things I have ever heard.

    Yeah I ain't happy about all this, but the UK ain't going to war with the US.

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    Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I have a hard time believing Obama or his staff would jeopardize a 70 year relationship with the U.K., without the U.K.'s knowing it.
    Same here. I feel there's more to this story than just "the british had no idea about this".

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