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    Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets

    On one hand, trading worthless information for tangible gains was a good move. On the other, pissing off our ally by giving away when asked not too is stupid. I'll have to wait for the British reaction to weight the cost benefit analysis. The important lesson to be learned is that it is foolish to rely on secrets when your security sucks.

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    Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Well well well, seems wikileaks isn't so evil anymore eh?
    They just helped damage our relationship with Britain. Yeah, they are swell I tell ya.
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    Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I'd say you should keep posting. You're lack of serious points and flawed logic do more to discredit you then any post by another. Such fatalistically naive comments like yours get's people dead. NOT KNOWING is the great deterrent.
    They know all they need to know: There's enough nukes around to end civilization as we know it.

    This cold war fetish needs to end. When is the right going to stop looking at Russia as someone we need to defeat?
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    Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    I'll have to wait for the British reaction to weight the cost benefit analysis.
    Truth is, we can never know the full extent to which this damages our credibility with our allies. And that's all our allies, not just the UK. We can be sure, however, that this sort of thing does make us look extremely untrustworthy.

    Even if the UK doesn't come out in decry this publicly, I'm sure we've lost a lot of implicit trust we used to have.

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    Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    They know all they need to know: There's enough nukes around to end civilization as we know it.

    This cold war fetish needs to end. When is the right going to stop looking at Russia as someone we need to defeat?
    I'm going to take the unusual step of siding with my conservative colleagues.

    If this turns out to be true, **** Barack Obama.

    Right or wrong our boys have died alongside yours in Iraq and Afghanistan, we committed to help you, and now Obama has turned around and screwed us.

    I am half British, and I will not stand for this crap.

    I thought we were allies man, this ain't cool. (this obviously not directed at you).

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    Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets

    ...On top of the fact that I don't put that much credence in any arms treaty we do sign with the Russians anyway. Well, at least the Russians in charge right now. Definitely not a good reason to sell out on the Brits...not that I can't think of any good reason to do such a thing in the first place.

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    Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Giving the Russians the serial numbers of the Trident SLBMs sold to Britain tells the Russians the exact size of the British nuclear force.
    Potentially you are incorrect. Giving serial numbers allows the Russians to know what type of missile, but not how many. For example, I can give you the serial number of an apple at a Shoprite, does that tell you how many apples Shoprite has?
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    Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets

    If I am the leader of Great Britain, I withdraw my embassy staff & suspend relations with the US until this Joke of a president is deposed in the next election. This is beyond idiotic........ Not only has Huessein Obama cast off Israel & Egypt as allies, he's now kicked the Brits to the curb as well. Honestly if this move (amoung many bad ones) doesnt convince you Liberals & drones who voted for him that this guy is in way over his head then almost nothing will.

    To give away your best friends nuclear secrets without there permission is a big time backstabbing and its hard to believe even Obama would make such a move, but here it is, this guy just never seems to stop horrifying people to just how far he'll go.

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    Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Who cares if they know how many Britain has
    the russians

    A series of classified messages sent to Washington by US negotiators show how information on Britain’s nuclear capability was crucial to securing Russia’s support for the “New START” deal.
    hello

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    Re: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    When is the right going to stop looking at Russia as someone we need to defeat?
    ask the brits

    Defence analysts claim the agreement risks undermining Britain’s policy of refusing to confirm the exact size of its nuclear arsenal.

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