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Jetboogieman said:
Well I see the muslim haters are out in full force here.

Again, I wanna ask some of them in here, if you thinks Islam and Muslims are such a threat to all of you, whats your "solution" do that threat hmmm?
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By that logic, it would be OK for a soldier to be a member of the KKK.
 
apdst said:
It's illegal, in the military, for a soldier to be a member of the Nazi Party. It should be equally illegal for a soldier to announce his Islamist sympathies.
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Onward Christian soldiers. Can atheists serve in your military?

Should the 10,000 Muslims serving in the military be asked to resign? Do they get honorable discharges?
 
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USA-1 said:
Onward Christian soldiers. Can atheists serve in your military?

Should the 10,000 Muslims serving in the military be asked to resign? Do they get honorable discharges?
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Sure they can.
 
apdst said:
By that logic, it would be OK for a soldier to be a member of the KKK.
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i was unaware that there was any regulation which prohibited military personnel from being members of the kkk. do you have a cite to show that kkk membership would be a violation of the regs
 
Ed Gein said:
Change your name to ALBERT FISH or JOHN WAYNE GACY and we can form a new club.
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Not a club I would ever consider joining. Although you appear to have some prospective recruits it Turtle and apdst.
 
USA_1 said:
Onward Christian soldiers. Can atheists serve in your military?

Should the 10,000 Muslims serving in the military be asked to resign? Do they get honorable discharges?
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If they support Islamofacism, they should be.
 
justabubba said:
i was unaware that there was any regulation which prohibited military personnel from being members of the kkk. do you have a cite to show that kkk membership would be a violation of the regs
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Sounds like you need to pay closer attention my posts.

4–12. Extremist organizations and activities
Participation in extremist organizations and activities by Army personnel is inconsistent with the responsibilities of
military service. It is the policy of the United States Army to provide equal opportunity and treatment for all Soldiers
without regard to race, color, religion, gender, or national origin. Enforcement of this policy is a responsibility of
command, is vitally important to unit cohesion and morale, and is essential to the Army’s ability to accomplish its
mission. It is the commander’s responsibility to maintain good order and discipline in the unit. Every commander has
the inherent authority to take appropriate actions to accomplish this goal. This paragraph identifies prohibited actions
by Soldiers involving extremist organizations, discusses the authority of the commander to establish other prohibitions,
and establishes that violations of prohibitions contained in this paragraph or those established by a commander may
result in prosecution under various provisions of the UCMJ. This paragraph must be used in conjunction with DODD
1325.6, Subject: Guidelines for Handling Dissident and Protest Activities Among Members of the Armed Forces. DA
Pam 600–15 provides guidance in implementing Army policy on extremist activities and organizations.

a. Participation. Military personnel must reject participation in extremist organizations and activities. Extremist
organizations and activities are ones that advocate racial, gender, or ethnic hatred or intolerance; advocate, create, or
engage in illegal discrimination based on race, color, gender, religion, or national origin, or advocate the use of or use
force or violence or unlawful means to deprive individuals of their rights under the United States Constitution or the
laws of the United States, or any State, by unlawful means.

http://armypubs.army.mil/epubs/pdf/r600_20.pdf
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Looks like you don't know nearly as much about the service as you think you do.
 
apdst said:
Sounds like you need to pay closer attention my posts.



Looks like you don't know nearly as much about the service as you think you do.
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i searched the document for "KKK", "ku klux klan" and "klan" ... nothing appeared
so, do you have anything which shows the military forbids a soldier's membership in the kkk?
 
apdst said:
If they support Islamofacism, they should be.
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Quote Originally Posted by apdst
It's illegal, in the military, for a soldier to be a member of the Nazi Party. It should be equally illegal for a soldier to announce his Islamist sympathies.
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justabubba said:
i searched the document for "KKK", "ku klux klan" and "klan" ... nothing appeared
so, do you have anything which shows the military forbids a soldier's membership in the kkk?
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You can't be seriously asking that question in light of the regulation I just posted.
 
apdst said:
You can't be seriously asking that question in light of the regulation I just posted.
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sure i am
nothing stated a prohibition from joining the kkk
is it a named extremist organization?
 
apdst said:
It's illegal, in the military, for a soldier to be a member of the Nazi Party. It should be equally illegal for a soldier to announce his Islamist sympathies.
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I'll give you a hint, one of those is constitutionally protected and the other isn't. Care to guess which is which?
 
Zyphlin said:
I'll give you a hint, one of those is constitutionally protected and the other isn't. Care to guess which is which?
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I'll give you a hint, membership in any group that falls under this definition,

Extremist organizations and activities are ones that advocate racial, gender, or ethnic hatred or intolerance; advocate, create, or
engage in illegal discrimination based on race, color, gender, religion, or national origin, or advocate the use of or use
force or violence or unlawful means to deprive individuals of their rights under the United States Constitution or the
laws of the United States, or any State, by unlawful means.
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is prohibited in the United States military and doesn't fall under constitutional protection.

We're talking about the military, not the civilian world. That's the mistake that you and Bubba are making.

I provided you with the regulation that makes such membership and activity illegal, in the service. You can't argue with it, unless you can provide an official interpretation that proves me wrong, which I know that you can't do.
 
justabubba said:
glad you are finally catching on
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See this?

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It's your boat and you just missed it.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Well I see the muslim haters are out in full force here.

Again, I wanna ask some of them in here, if you thinks Islam and Muslims are such a threat to all of you, whats your "solution" do that threat hmmm?
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How about admit there is a threat from certain segments of Islamic Followers, namely the radicals. And then start having an honest approach to weeding them out. Other Muslims can either accept that we have to do this not because of Islam, but because of idiots.

Or we can pretend that any discussion like the above is really "muslim haters" and wonder why **** like this happens.
 
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