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    Re: Senate probe rips FBI, Pentagon on Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by USA_1 View Post
    Onward Christian soldiers. Can atheists serve in your military?

    Should the 10,000 Muslims serving in the military be asked to resign? Do they get honorable discharges?
    If they support Islamofacism, they should be.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Senate probe rips FBI, Pentagon on Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    i was unaware that there was any regulation which prohibited military personnel from being members of the kkk. do you have a cite to show that kkk membership would be a violation of the regs
    Sounds like you need to pay closer attention my posts.

    4–12. Extremist organizations and activities
    Participation in extremist organizations and activities by Army personnel is inconsistent with the responsibilities of
    military service. It is the policy of the United States Army to provide equal opportunity and treatment for all Soldiers
    without regard to race, color, religion, gender, or national origin. Enforcement of this policy is a responsibility of
    command, is vitally important to unit cohesion and morale, and is essential to the Army’s ability to accomplish its
    mission. It is the commander’s responsibility to maintain good order and discipline in the unit. Every commander has
    the inherent authority to take appropriate actions to accomplish this goal. This paragraph identifies prohibited actions
    by Soldiers involving extremist organizations, discusses the authority of the commander to establish other prohibitions,
    and establishes that violations of prohibitions contained in this paragraph or those established by a commander may
    result in prosecution under various provisions of the UCMJ. This paragraph must be used in conjunction with DODD
    1325.6, Subject: Guidelines for Handling Dissident and Protest Activities Among Members of the Armed Forces. DA
    Pam 600–15 provides guidance in implementing Army policy on extremist activities and organizations.

    a. Participation. Military personnel must reject participation in extremist organizations and activities. Extremist
    organizations and activities are ones that advocate racial, gender, or ethnic hatred or intolerance; advocate, create, or
    engage in illegal discrimination based on race, color, gender, religion, or national origin, or advocate the use of or use
    force or violence or unlawful means to deprive individuals of their rights under the United States Constitution or the
    laws of the United States, or any State, by unlawful means.

    http://armypubs.army.mil/epubs/pdf/r600_20.pdf
    Looks like you don't know nearly as much about the service as you think you do.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Senate probe rips FBI, Pentagon on Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Sounds like you need to pay closer attention my posts.



    Looks like you don't know nearly as much about the service as you think you do.
    i searched the document for "KKK", "ku klux klan" and "klan" ... nothing appeared
    so, do you have anything which shows the military forbids a soldier's membership in the kkk?
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Even his own advisers and confidantes think Trump's campaign committed treason.
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    Re: Senate probe rips FBI, Pentagon on Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If they support Islamofacism, they should be.
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    It's illegal, in the military, for a soldier to be a member of the Nazi Party. It should be equally illegal for a soldier to announce his Islamist sympathies.
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    Re: Senate probe rips FBI, Pentagon on Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    i searched the document for "KKK", "ku klux klan" and "klan" ... nothing appeared
    so, do you have anything which shows the military forbids a soldier's membership in the kkk?
    You can't be seriously asking that question in light of the regulation I just posted.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Senate probe rips FBI, Pentagon on Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You can't be seriously asking that question in light of the regulation I just posted.
    sure i am
    nothing stated a prohibition from joining the kkk
    is it a named extremist organization?
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Senate probe rips FBI, Pentagon on Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    sure i am
    nothing stated a prohibition from joining the kkk
    is it a named extremist organization?
    Trully unbelievable.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Senate probe rips FBI, Pentagon on Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Trully unbelievable.
    glad you are finally catching on
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Even his own advisers and confidantes think Trump's campaign committed treason.
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    Re: Senate probe rips FBI, Pentagon on Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's illegal, in the military, for a soldier to be a member of the Nazi Party. It should be equally illegal for a soldier to announce his Islamist sympathies.
    I'll give you a hint, one of those is constitutionally protected and the other isn't. Care to guess which is which?

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    Re: Senate probe rips FBI, Pentagon on Fort Hood shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I'll give you a hint, one of those is constitutionally protected and the other isn't. Care to guess which is which?
    I'll give you a hint, membership in any group that falls under this definition,

    Extremist organizations and activities are ones that advocate racial, gender, or ethnic hatred or intolerance; advocate, create, or
    engage in illegal discrimination based on race, color, gender, religion, or national origin, or advocate the use of or use
    force or violence or unlawful means to deprive individuals of their rights under the United States Constitution or the
    laws of the United States, or any State, by unlawful means.
    is prohibited in the United States military and doesn't fall under constitutional protection.

    We're talking about the military, not the civilian world. That's the mistake that you and Bubba are making.

    I provided you with the regulation that makes such membership and activity illegal, in the service. You can't argue with it, unless you can provide an official interpretation that proves me wrong, which I know that you can't do.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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