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    Senate Democrats block GOP bid to repeal health care law

    Senate Democrats block GOP bid to repeal health care law - CNN.com

    "Senate Democrats on Wednesday blocked a Republican effort to repeal the health care law passed last year.

    The party-line vote, with all 47 Republicans in favor and 51 Democrats opposed, meant the procedural motion failed to get the necessary 60 votes to pass. Two Democrats didn't vote.

    Because the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office has said the health care reform law will lower the deficit, Democrats argued that repealing it would increase the deficit.

    The Democrats therefore invoked a point of order against the Republican amendment under budget rules that limit the ability of Congress to increase the deficit. That forced Republicans to try to waive the budget rules in this case, with the motion requiring 60 votes in the 100-seat Senate to pass.

    While a repeal of the entire health care law won't move forward, Senate Democrats joined Republicans in voting for the elimination of a rule, scheduled to take effect in 2012, that would require businesses to issue Form 1099s to any individual or corporation from which they buy more than $600 in goods or services in a year. Most liberals and conservatives view the rule as an unnecessary burden on private-sector employers."


    Glad they repealed the business burden thing.
    From the NYTimes:
    "That vote was 81 to 17, with 34 Democrats and all 47 Republicans in favor."

    For the distribution of who voted on what:
    Senate Vote 9 - Fails To Repeal Health Care Law - NYTimes.com

    Couldn't find a distribution of who voted on the business burden.

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    Re: Senate Democrats block GOP bid to repeal health care law

    While a repeal of the entire health care law won't move forward, Senate Democrats joined Republicans in voting for the elimination of a rule, scheduled to take effect in 2012, that would require businesses to issue Form 1099s to any individual or corporation from which they buy more than $600 in goods or services in a year. Most liberals and conservatives view the rule as an unnecessary burden on private-sector employers.
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    Re: Senate Democrats block GOP bid to repeal health care law

    How did Senators Ben Nelson of Nebraska and Joe Manchin of West Virginia vote. Their political careers are on the line.

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    Re: Senate Democrats block GOP bid to repeal health care law

    I put up the voting distribution in the first post.

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    Re: Senate Democrats block GOP bid to repeal health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    I put up the voting distribution in the first post.
    Thanks. Nelson and Manchin are now on record as opposing the views of the majority of their respective electorates. This will be used against them.

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    Re: Senate Democrats block GOP bid to repeal health care law

    No, it's a good thing the Dem's did this. Fodder for 2012, and should the SCOTUS get this before the 2012 election and strike it down ala the Florida case... well, mo'better. Should the SCOTUS side that it's constitutional, the GOP can use that as well.
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    Re: Senate Democrats block GOP bid to repeal health care law

    Not surprising at all.
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    Re: Senate Democrats block GOP bid to repeal health care law

    47 to 53 is getting awfully close to the white house

    and that's the vote on COMPREHENSIVE repeal

    how do you think republican sponsored repeal of THE MANDATE is gonna go down, after it's whooshed effortlessly thru boehner's house?

    Dems up for reelection under pressure to nix healthcare mandate - TheHill.com

    what happens to obamacare when this fundamental prop is pulled out?

    are you familiar with the electoral landscape heading into 2012, twenty three dems up vs only ten knuckle draggers?

    12 to 14 dems genuinely endangered vs only one or two neanderthals (scott brown and maybe john ensign)

    NationalJournal.com - GOP Marching to a Senate Majority - Wednesday, February 2, 2011

    Tougher road ahead for Senate Dems - Shira Toeplitz - POLITICO.com

    tester in montana, nelson in nebraska, conrad's open in north dakota, webb in virginia, casey in PA, nelson in florida, mccaskill in missouri (where the show me's in august voted 71% for measure c to kill the mandate), stabenow in michigan, kohl in wisconsin, bingaman in new mexico, brown in ohio, klobuchar in minnesota, cantwell in washington, manchin in WV...

    do you know exactly what happened in ALL those states 90 days ago on tsunami tuesday?

    in the house, in the senate, in the state legislatures?

    would you like me to tell you?

    it would be one of my longer posts

    why don't you start by reading the journal and politico above

    seeya at the polls, pals

    but before that, we have business to do on the floor---concerning THE MANDATE

    stay up, respect yourself, people are watching

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    Re: Senate Democrats block GOP bid to repeal health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    47 to 53 is getting awfully close to the white house

    and that's the vote on COMPREHENSIVE repeal

    how do you think republican sponsored repeal of THE MANDATE is gonna go down, after it's whooshed effortlessly thru boehner's house?

    Dems up for reelection under pressure to nix healthcare mandate - TheHill.com

    what happens to obamacare when this fundamental prop is pulled out?

    are you familiar with the electoral landscape heading into 2012, twenty three dems up vs only ten knuckle draggers?

    12 to 14 dems genuinely endangered vs only one or two neanderthals (scott brown and maybe john ensign)

    NationalJournal.com - GOP Marching to a Senate Majority - Wednesday, February 2, 2011

    Tougher road ahead for Senate Dems - Shira Toeplitz - POLITICO.com

    tester in montana, nelson in nebraska, conrad's open in north dakota, webb in virginia, casey in PA, nelson in florida, mccaskill in missouri (where the show me's in august voted 71% for measure c to kill the mandate), stabenow in michigan, kohl in wisconsin, bingaman in new mexico, brown in ohio, klobuchar in minnesota, cantwell in washington, manchin in WV...

    do you know exactly what happened in ALL those states 90 days ago on tsunami tuesday?

    in the house, in the senate, in the state legislatures?

    would you like me to tell you?

    it would be one of my longer posts

    why don't you start by reading the journal and politico above

    seeya at the polls, pals

    but before that, we have business to do on the floor---concerning THE MANDATE

    stay up, respect yourself, people are watching
    I see this as a win for Republican's they did what they said during the campaign and allowed only the democrat's to defeat the bill. The next win I see in this, is the democrat's using the rule of increasing the deficit. We the people win in that one, because now if republican's use their heads, “NOTHING” will get out of the senate that will raise the deficit. My question, is how are the Democrats now going justify their “yes” votes on raising the debt ceiling?

    Also this health care bill is now dead, or the democrat's are, one of the two, I say this because each part of this health care bill that comes up for funding, is going to have to be shown to be deficit neutral or it can be defeated by Republican's using the same rule, and everyone knows it easy to make an entire bill deficit neutral by creative financing, then it is a part of the bill that needs government funding.

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    Re: Senate Democrats block GOP bid to repeal health care law

    What the hell is up with freaking Lieberman? Why didn't he vote? Probably would have voted 'No", and Warner too. Sen Webb (the bastard) needs to go. I hate that SOB.
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