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    Re: Senate Democrats block GOP bid to repeal health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    For the first time in American History.....a President and Congress went against The Overwhelming Will Of The American People......and shoved a subprime health care bill to nowhere down our throats.

    Whether it was dissatisfaction with the bill itself.....or the act of Tyranny behind it......ObamaCare had an impact.
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    Hardly. The people have been sadly misinformed and suffering from a serious disconnect, wanting the benefits but not wanting any method to pay for them.

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    Re: Senate Democrats block GOP bid to repeal health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    republican mandate---LOL!

    crammed thru senate via RECONCILIATION

    mere days after the party was willing to DEEM the damn thing

    hey, you got JOSEPH CAO's support!

    meanwhile, the public option:

    Democratic senator: Public health insurance option dead – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs
    You obviously haven't been following along for long. The mandate WAS a Republican idea.
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    Re: Senate Democrats block GOP bid to repeal health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You obviously haven't been following along for long. The mandate WAS a Republican idea.
    This spin of late isn't going to get you guys anywhere. So Republicans suggested the public option be mandated....ok.

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    Re: Senate Democrats block GOP bid to repeal health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    This spin of late isn't going to get you guys anywhere. So Republicans suggested the public option be mandated....ok.
    It's not a spin. I'll get the article in a second. This was already in a discussion earlier. And not the public option, but the health insurance mandate.

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    "I'm totally willing to accept that it was initially a Republican idea... I just want to see someone other Meowmix over here show me a source. I'm not asking for a dissertation or thesis with footnotes -- I mean, if it's that hard to man up and produce it, the obvious answer is the whole claim is bull****."

    Republicans Hatched Idea for Obama&#39;s Health Insurance Mandate - FoxNews.com

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Beautiful. This at least provides a starting point - now I can go back and look at alternatives to Hillary Care and what arguments Republicans gave at that time. And for the record: The Mandate was a Republican idea.

    Go to this thread: http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...edited-35.html
    Last edited by iamitter; 02-03-11 at 04:32 PM.

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    Re: Senate Democrats block GOP bid to repeal health care law

    good luck selling the electorate on the idea that THE MANDATE which republicans are working their butts off to kill and a good 80% of the party still in power is desperately attempting to preserve, which was CRAMMED down american throats via senate RECONCILIATION mere days after pelosi was prepared to DEEM it, which made it to the president's desk with ZERO gop'ers upstairs and ONE in lower house, is the REPUBLICANS' RESPONSIBILITY

    LOL!

    hey, maybe you could explain to the voters about the NIXON administration

    or NINETEEN NINETY THREE

    that's sure to go over, y'know, TODAY

    even better than it did on tsunami tuesday

    meanwhile, live it, libs, love it

    it's all YOURS

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    Re: Senate Democrats block GOP bid to repeal health care law

    The bush tax cuts also originally passed via reconciliation. Would you quantify that as also "cramming it down america's throat?".

    No, because it lives up to your ideals, which make it good.

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    Re: Senate Democrats block GOP bid to repeal health care law

    big picture, boys and girls

    just what do YOU think it means when NOBODY wants to own it?

    THE MANDATE, i mean

    what do YOU think it means to, y'know, the FUTURE OPERATION of obamacare when the primary payfor it depends upon is being actively DISINHERITED by its authors?

    seeya on the floor, folks

    tell SENATOR MCCASKILL the mandate is ALL GOP

    LOL!

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    Re: Senate Democrats block GOP bid to repeal health care law

    Also, you're making it sound as if all the Republicans voted against it because of the mandate.

    "Brown, whose election to replace the late Democratic Sen. Edward M. Kennedy almost led to the collapse of Obama's plan, said his opposition to the new law is over tax increases, Medicare cuts and federal overreach on a matter that should be left up to states. Not so much the requirement, which he voted for as a state lawmaker."

    Many GOP senators had taken vows to vote down anything with new taxes, which is why they voted no.

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    Re: Senate Democrats block GOP bid to repeal health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    The bush tax cuts also originally passed via reconciliation.
    you mean these?

    Obama Calls Tax Cuts the 'Right Thing to Do'
    Last edited by The Prof; 02-03-11 at 04:52 PM.

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    Re: Senate Democrats block GOP bid to repeal health care law

    No, the original vote when Bush was in office.

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