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    Re: 'Al-Qaida on brink of using nuclear bomb'

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Whatever the hell people may think about the wars, al Qaeda is a legitimate threat to the US and other western countries. I don't see why some people are trying to portray this information as NBD.

    True, but we have many threats we face.
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    Re: 'Al-Qaida on brink of using nuclear bomb'

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    True, but we have many threats we face.
    Personally, I think we should take any al Qaeda threat at least as seriously as any other threat if not more. They, above all othe rgroups, have shown the will and ability to do major damage here in the US.

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    Re: 'Al-Qaida on brink of using nuclear bomb'

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Personally, I think we should take any al Qaeda threat at least as seriously as any other threat if not more. They, above all othe rgroups, have shown the will and ability to do major damage here in the US.
    It certainly seems we've sacrificed more in terms of money and lives due to our fears of al Qaeda than we have to more serious threats of climate change and peak oil.
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    Re: 'Al-Qaida on brink of using nuclear bomb'

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Whatever the hell people may think about the wars, al Qaeda is a legitimate threat to the US and other western countries. I don't see why some people are trying to portray this information as NBD.
    It certainly is a legitimate threat to the US and other western countries. It's a very big deal, which is why we have security tighter than ticks on a dog's ass. As I've said before in this thread, I've no doubt they will hit us again, dispite the fact that most of their attempts have been thankfully thwarted. We can't cower in fear on a daily basis. We have much more chance of being individually affected by crime in the streets and natural disasters than we do of individually being affected by a terrorist attack. 9/11 was a national tragedy. I hope nothing of that magnitude ever succeeds again. We have to be vigilent, pragmatic and aware, but we cannot as a nation be in a constant state of terror.

    My main anger is that we had the opportunity to destroy the entire core of Al Qaeda while it was still small and bunched together in Afghanistan, and because of poor military decisions made, only a fraction of our military was sent to deal with it in Afghanistan. Because of those blunders, Al Qaeda as a group escaped into Pakistan and look at the domino affect that has had in the region. The Taliban have recruited, replenished, and reassaulted Afghanistan. Al Qaeda has a foothold in Pakistand which grows larger by the day. And none of it had to happen if Rumsfeld and Bush had sent enough troops in to do the job correctly the first time, when they had the undivided support of the American people to do so.

    I'll admit I resent hell out of that, and the subsequent invasion of Iraq. I'll also admit that said resentment still colors my views on the topic.
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    Re: 'Al-Qaida on brink of using nuclear bomb'

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    It certainly seems we've sacrificed more in terms of money and lives due to our fears of al Qaeda than we have to more serious threats of climate change and peak oil.
    I would say we sacrificed more in terms of money and lives over oil than we have over al Qaeda, but that's more of my opinion on why we went to war in Iraq than anything else.

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    Re: 'Al-Qaida on brink of using nuclear bomb'

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I would say we sacrificed more in terms of money and lives over oil than we have over al Qaeda, but that's more of my opinion on why we went to war in Iraq than anything else.
    I can't argue with you there! However, I think the unreasonable fear of al Qaeda was used to generate support for war against Iraq.
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    Re: 'Al-Qaida on brink of using nuclear bomb'

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Since when was the Russia government considered to be terrorist?

    I get your point here..."keep American military missle defense secrets secret", but since the issue here is "terrorist getting their hands on fissle materials to constructe a dirty bomb" and not the exchange of military information between two foreign super powers - right or wrong - I don't think this particular issue fits the topic of discussion.

    Weather it is Obama giving away English secret information, or Terror orgs trying to obtain materiel, this is about integrity pure and simple, and the man now occupying the WH has none. This makes us all less safe.


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    Re: 'Al-Qaida on brink of using nuclear bomb'

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I would say we sacrificed more in terms of money and lives over oil than we have over al Qaeda, but that's more of my opinion on why we went to war in Iraq than anything else.
    Well we didn't even get oil from there. But regardless, I don't know what we can really do about this. Maybe the government can act, try to make sure it's on top of certain intelligence and what have you. But it's most likely a matter of time, we've already made those types of weapons and people know how to make those weapons; it's all about assembling the materials and over any sufficient time scale; that will happen.
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    Re: 'Al-Qaida on brink of using nuclear bomb'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Well we didn't even get oil from there.
    I don't think it was about getting oil so much as it is about how oil dictates our interests in the region. If the ME didn't have oil, we really wouldn't expend any energy there.

    But regardless, I don't know what we can really do about this. Maybe the government can act, try to make sure it's on top of certain intelligence and what have you. But it's most likely a matter of time, we've already made those types of weapons and people know how to make those weapons; it's all about assembling the materials and over any sufficient time scale; that will happen.
    Agreed. But there is also the fact that the weapons need to be taken to the place where they are to be used. Preparing for a specific threat of a dirty bomb is different to preparing for a general threat.

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