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    Re: Sikh students can wear dagger in Plymouth-Canton schools, but with modifications

    Christian kids are not banned from wearing religious symbols in school. Much ado about nothing.

    I have met members of the Sikh community in Canada. Quite possibly some of the most peaceful people I've ever met. They also make great bread. Much ado about nothing.
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    Re: Sikh students can wear dagger in Plymouth-Canton schools, but with modifications

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    And YMMV but the problem may be exacerbated in that such issues are likely to be determined by individual school districts, which is one reason why there are no consistent guidelines.
    I'm not talking among districts, I'm talking among religions.
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    Re: Sikh students can wear dagger in Plymouth-Canton schools, but with modifications

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Christian kids are not banned from wearing religious symbols in school. Much ado about nothing.

    I have met members of the Sikh community in Canada. Quite possibly some of the most peaceful people I've ever met. They also make great bread. Much ado about nothing.
    School ban for crosses but not Muslim lockets - Telegraph

    Wearing 'purity rings' is banned at girls' school | Mail Online

    Yeah, no problem right?
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    Re: Sikh students can wear dagger in Plymouth-Canton schools, but with modifications

    From your links:

    Schools have been told that they should ban crosses and crucifixes, but allow Muslim children to wear symbols, even though they are not compulsory.
    So somebody suggested they should ban it and another school banned jewelry across the board. Where is the actual ban on crosses? Maybe next time you'll find us a link on an actual ban of crosses? That would be nice.
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    Re: Sikh students can wear dagger in Plymouth-Canton schools, but with modifications

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    I think that one point Goshin may have is prayers in public schools. Christians often wish to pray before school - which many liberals are against because of separation of church and state and the use of government property to provide a place for prayer - while Muslims are required to pray five times a day towards Mecca, and thus may need their own accomodations to do so since it is likely they will have to pray during school hours.

    Does anyone know the ruling for public schools concerning this?

    Okay... so are you saying that because our religion is a bit less demanding than theirs, means that theirs should get priority efforts at accomodation while ours is relegated to a side-issue at best, when not being actually stifled outright?

    Not saying you meant it that way, just pointing something out...

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    Re: Sikh students can wear dagger in Plymouth-Canton schools, but with modifications

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    I think that one point Goshin may have is prayers in public schools. Christians often wish to pray before school - which many liberals are against because of separation of church and state and the use of government property to provide a place for prayer - while Muslims are required to pray five times a day towards Mecca, and thus may need their own accomodations to do so since it is likely they will have to pray during school hours.

    Does anyone know the ruling for public schools concerning this?
    Have these liberals actually read the 1st Amendment?

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
    ARE WE CLEAR ON THIS NOW?? Apparently public school training has adversely affected reading comprehension.
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    Re: Sikh students can wear dagger in Plymouth-Canton schools, but with modifications

    This is so awesome. I now await with tingly thighs for the Satanists to demand the right to wear goat's heads for the black masses.

    We are so evolved.

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    Re: Sikh students can wear dagger in Plymouth-Canton schools, but with modifications

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    if it is sewn into the sheath and is not able to be retracted, then what damage could it do

    somehow, i think the opponents would be screaming if it was decided that crosses worn on necklaces could be used as weapons and were therefor no longer going to be tolerated
    in some places they are not
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    Re: Sikh students can wear dagger in Plymouth-Canton schools, but with modifications

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Have these liberals actually read the 1st Amendment?


    ARE WE CLEAR ON THIS NOW?? Apparently public school training has adversely affected reading comprehension.
    Interesting how you bolded the "Free Exercise" Clause, which is not relevant to your point. You should have bolded the "Establishment" Clause, which precludes the government from endorsing religion. The Establishment Clause, not the Free Exercise Clause is the reason prayer is not allow at public schools, because that constitutes a government endorsement of a particular religion.

    There is a difference between allowing a student to wear a religious symbol, as is the case here, and school endorsed prayer is as stark as the difference between night and day. The latter is an endorsement of religion by the school, the former is not.

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    Re: Sikh students can wear dagger in Plymouth-Canton schools, but with modifications

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    in some places they are not
    That is false.

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