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    Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    January 31, 2010

    Breaking News: Florida Judge Rules Health Care Law Is Unconstitutional

    Story: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutionalby Florida U.S. Judge - Bloomberg
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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    just saw this. can't find any details yet though. I think it's the mandate that eh ruled unconstitutional.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    just saw this. can't find any details yet though. I think it's the mandate that eh ruled unconstitutional.
    Exactly but that will destroy the entire law. Without the individual mandate the bill dies under its own weight and cannot be funded.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Exactly but that will destroy the entire law. Without the individual mandate the bill dies under its own weight and cannot be funded.
    I'm hoping that's exactly what happens, that it dies from it's own weight. That relieves the Congress from having to make any rash decisions.
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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    here ya go...

    Obama Health-Care Reform Act Unconstitutional, Judge Says in 26-State Suit - Bloomberg

    President Barack Obama’s health care reform legislation, assailed as an abuse of federal power in a 26-state lawsuit, was ruled unconstitutional by a U.S. judge.

    U.S. District Judge Roger Vinson in Pensacola, Florida, declared the law unconstitutional in a ruling today. Then- Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum filed suit on behalf of 13 states on March 23, the same day Obama signed into law the legislation intended to provide the U.S. with almost universal health-care coverage. Seven states joined the litigation last year, and six signed on this year. Virginia Attorney General Kenneth Cuccinelli sued separately on March 23 and Oklahoma Attorney General Scott Pruitt filed his own suit on Jan. 21.

    Vinson’s ruling may be appealed to the U.S. Court of Appeals in Atlanta. A federal appeals court in Richmond, Virginia, is already slated in May to hear challenges to two conflicting federal court rulings in that state, one of which upheld the legislation while the other invalidated part of it. The U.S. Supreme Court may ultimately be asked to consider the issue.

    The 955-page law bars insurers from denying coverage to people who are sick and from imposing lifetime limits on costs. It also includes pilot projects to test ideas like incentives for better results and bundled payments to medical teams for patient care.

    In an Oct. 14 decision letting the case to proceed, Vinson narrowed the issues to whether the act exceeded the constitutional powers of Congress by requiring all Americans over the age of 18 to obtain coverage and expanding eligibility for Medicaid, the federal-state program offering care for the indigent.

    The case is State of Florida v. U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, 10-cv-00091, U.S. District Court, Northern District of Florida (Pensacola).

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    This is great news for the people on many levels and also for the economy.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    This is great news for the people on many levels and also for the economy.
    Yes, those children with preexisting conditions and cancer patients who've been dropped from their health care will be thrilled.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    This was not a surprise. It'll be appealed.
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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Centrist View Post
    Yes, those children with preexisting conditions and cancer patients who've been dropped from their health care will be thrilled.
    You think it is the government's role to force people to purchase anything especially a personal responsibility product?
    Last edited by Conservative; 01-31-11 at 04:26 PM.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Exactly but that will destroy the entire law.
    Nope. It just means that people will be able to game the system by waiting until they get sick to sign up, and it will destroy the entire private insurance sector. That's A-OK with me. The individual mandate was a Republican idea that was included as an olive branch to the health insurance industry, in exchange for their support for ending preexisting conditions. If those same Republicans are now more interested in scoring political points then keeping the private health insurance sector alive, more power to them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative
    Without the individual mandate the bill dies under its own weight and cannot be funded.
    Huh? Funding? The individual mandate has nothing to do with how the bill is funded. I don't think you understand the arguments why it was included in the first place. Makes it rather difficult to rebut you...
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