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Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

Boo Radley said:
A toy? Try some cereal. Yes, that would be alright.
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Nope, I was accurate. Politicians, especially Dems, have been stealing money from SS since it began and using it to buy "toys" for those they favor and hope to get votes from.
 
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tryreading said:
Right, like health insurance, when you need it, you're glad you have it.

I probably didn't make clear that I was saying since SS is legal, national health insurance, which would work in a very similar way, should be legal too.
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Whether the NHI is legal or not is just another Rep gotcha tactic to discredit Obama and get enough votes to win the 2012 election, any way they can.

ricksfolly
 
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Gill said:
Nope, I was accurate. Politicians, especially Dems, have been stealing money from SS since it began and using it to buy "toys" for those they favor and hope to get votes from.
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No, not accurate. That's just partisan nonsensical spin. :coffeepap
 
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ptif219 said:
It is accurate they are stealing my SS retirement funds and spending it on something else
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Not stealing. And the something else is on our programs, which means our money spent on us. ;)
 
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ptif219 said:
If you call it that. Can you live on less than $700 a month which is what my son that has severe autism gets. Oh yes he gets Medicaid which does not cover his dental.

The government expects me to take care of and support my 37 year old son. I have done this and saved the taxpayers money but you saying they will cover stuff is a lie. They put it on the parents. I could turn him over to the state and the state would institutionalize him but then the state pays not the feds
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I like could, actually. But my wife works with such clients, and many do well. NJot sure about your state, but you might seek something like this: Opportunity Village - Home
 
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a worker pays in all her life, dies early, gets squat

her special needs granddaughter tries to get by on 700 dollars

;)

no wonder the party in power took such a shellacking
 
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Boo Radley said:
I like could, actually. But my wife works with such clients, and many do well. NJot sure about your state, but you might seek something like this: Opportunity Village - Home
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From the article you posted

On Nov. 21, 1966, Handicap Village was incorporated as a private, non-profit, charitable organization. In 1969, the Village purchased 80 acres of land in Clear Lake, Iowa, with the help of donations from the community. Donald A. Boyer was hired as the first Executive Director in November of that year.

So, are you saying that ,in defence of your argument that the gov't is not stealing our funds, that he should go to a private facility to get help with his son? That shoots your whole premis down.
 
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sure, you pay in a half million thruout a working life, die just a few days too soon

we keep it all

and you can just send your special needs heirs to THE VILLAGE

LOL!

THIS is what's became of intra-party debate in the era of barack hussein

ie, where have all the SERIOUS polemicists gone

pathetic

oh, yeah, there's always---;)
 
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cholla said:
From the article you posted

On Nov. 21, 1966, Handicap Village was incorporated as a private, non-profit, charitable organization. In 1969, the Village purchased 80 acres of land in Clear Lake, Iowa, with the help of donations from the community. Donald A. Boyer was hired as the first Executive Director in November of that year.

So, are you saying that ,in defence of your argument that the gov't is not stealing our funds, that he should go to a private facility to get help with his son? That shoots your whole premis down.
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Nope. I'm saying there are better ways to care for your child. However, don't think government funds are used their. They do recieve such funds and are worried a lot about budget cuts.
 
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exactly

LOL!

you ALREADY said that

you're REPEATING yourself

the 61 year old who paid in her half mil over her lifetime of labor and got ripped off the entire investment cuz she died too soon can just send her downs syndrome granddaughter to the village

cuz it doesn't receive any govt help

anything else?
 
Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

Boo Radley said:
Not stealing. And the something else is on our programs, which means our money spent on us. ;)
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You mean money spent on special interest groups to buy votes
 
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Boo Radley said:
I like could, actually. But my wife works with such clients, and many do well. NJot sure about your state, but you might seek something like this: Opportunity Village - Home
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You miss the point. If my son did not have us he would be in an institution that would cost the state thousands a month but instead they expect me to pay.

Not only that but benefits change county to county
 
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Boo Radley said:
Nope. I'm saying there are better ways to care for your child. However, don't think government funds are used their. They do recieve such funds and are worried a lot about budget cuts.
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You mean like there is no cost of living increase so Obama has froze my sons money for the last 2 years. This is the first time since the 70's that they did not give cost of living increases. I don't know about you but I say Obama is lying because the cost of living has increased
 
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ptif219 said:
You miss the point. If my son did not have us he would be in an institution that would cost the state thousands a month but instead they expect me to pay.

Not only that but benefits change county to county
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The villiage is for people who are still here, so it's not to be looked as you seem to be looking at it. And yes, benefits vary, but the fact is there are benefits. We all can see benefits from them as well. It is much better that these benefits are here, funded and supported by us than being without them. no one has stolen anything. We've had representatives; we've had all this passed by them, and voted them back in after they did so, giving them our overall support. It is our system, and not theft.
 
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ptif219 said:
You mean like there is no cost of living increase so Obama has froze my sons money for the last 2 years. This is the first time since the 70's that they did not give cost of living increases. I don't know about you but I say Obama is lying because the cost of living has increased
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I have no idea what you're talking about. Even in the private sector people don't get cost of living raises even when the cost of living increases.
 
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Boo Radley said:
The villiage is for people who are still here, so it's not to be looked as you seem to be looking at it. And yes, benefits vary, but the fact is there are benefits. We all can see benefits from them as well. It is much better that these benefits are here, funded and supported by us than being without them. no one has stolen anything. We've had representatives; we've had all this passed by them, and voted them back in after they did so, giving them our overall support. It is our system, and not theft.
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No you support them I do not. I did not vote for Rubio this year I voted third party. They did take my retirement money that they took by force and gave it to their special interests to buy votes. In my book that is stealing my money for their personal gain.
 
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Boo Radley said:
I have no idea what you're talking about. Even in the private sector people don't get cost of living raises even when the cost of living increases.
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So then you do not know what you are talking about or debating. We already knew that.
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ptif219 said:
No you support them I do not. I did not vote for Rubio this year I voted third party. They did take my retirement money that they took by force and gave it to their special interests to buy votes. In my book that is stealing my money for their personal gain.
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But that's not how our system works. We vote and winner wins, regardless of whether you or aI agree. Neither of us can call something a criminal act just because we lost.
 
same as medicaid---LOL!
 
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Boo Radley said:
But that's not how our system works. We vote and winner wins, regardless of whether you or aI agree. Neither of us can call something a criminal act just because we lost.
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Yes we can since it is corruption and special interests driving it
 
yes, the asa has found that americans with NO INSURANCE fare better---lower costs, shorter stays and reduced mortality---than our friends and family members whose primary pay status is the ghetto of health care

obama makes medicaid much worse, he expands its already teetering enrollment by millions---with no funding

it won't stand, the gubs coast to coast will kill it

Governors balk over what healthcare bill will cost states - The Boston Globe

our states are already facing TWO POINT FIVE TRILLION dollars of public shortfall in their porcine public pension plans

the expansion of medicaid with no backing is unsupportable, unsustainable, impossible

prayers for your son, stay up
 
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ptif219 said:
Yes we can since it is corruption and special interests driving it
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It's not corruption. Both sides were involved in making the laws. Both side make up our representatives. The issue ahs bene debated again and again. You just lost. Make a better argument. Making silly accusations is not a better argument.
 
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