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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Troubadour View Post
    "The stalling game" is the legal challenge itself.

    Wrong! The Judge in FL issued his ruling which was in effect a "cease and desist" order, and did Obama, and his AG comply? No. They stalled and ignored his ruling.

    Pure contempt for the law.


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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Troubadour View Post
    Like criminal laws, court rulings are only immaterial when they are inconvenient to Republicans.



    "The stalling game" is the legal challenge itself. If conservatives were so confident the American people would be dissatisfied with the results, they wouldn't be trying to bring the program down before it even begins. At every turn, the GOP says one thing and does another. Its hypocrisy and doublethink are legendary.
    That is about the dumbest thing I ever heard. That is PRECISELY WHY the GOP is trying to bring that Obamanation of a health care law down... because they are confident the American people would be dissatisfied with the results.

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yes, but in this case it was the government that was ruled against, and just simply ignored the court, then had to be threatened by the judge. This is some group we have in charge.


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    And in another case the govt. wasn't ruled against, but an appeal wasn't filed, either.

    This is customary, cases usually take a few years to get to the SC.
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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    the american electorate on tsunami tuesday sent the party of no to dc and the state capitols in record numbers for a purpose

    who's stalling?

    Florida Judge Orders Obama Administration to Expedite Health Care Appeal

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, If Obama (and you) are so confident that the SCOTUS will uphold the law, then why the stalling game?


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    I think you confuse things. Maybe you're just reading the wrong biased reporting?

    “This is not the last word by any means,” a White House official told reporters in a background briefing. “We are quite confident it won’t stand.”

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    Judge Vinson is the second federal judge to declare a key portion of the Obama health-care reform law unconstitutional. Two other federal judges have upheld the constitutionality of the law.

    White House vows to implement health care reform, despite judge

    The judge declined to immediately enjoin, or suspend, the law pending appeals, a process that could last two years. But he wrote that the federal government should adhere to his declaratory judgment as the functional equivalent of an injunction. That left confusion about how the ruling might be interpreted in the 26 states that are parties to the legal challenge.

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    The Justice Department, which represents the Obama administration in the litigation, said it was exploring options to clarify the uncertainty, including requesting a stay of the decision, either from Judge Vinson or from the United States Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/01/us/01ruling.html

    "Obviously this case will be appealed ... and so implementation would proceed apace ... This is not the last word by any means," the official said.

    Judge strikes down healthcare reform law | Reuters

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    the doj says...

    LOL!

    meanwhile, here on earth:

    Number of healthcare reform law waivers climbs above 1,000 - The Hill's Healthwatch

    why do so many want out?

    why does hhs keep letting em go?

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    That is about the dumbest thing I ever heard. That is PRECISELY WHY the GOP is trying to bring that Obamanation of a health care law down... because they are confident the American people would be dissatisfied with the results.
    All 99 percent care about is how much will it cost, and does it cover me and my family? none of the other details. Whether they're dissatisified with the results or not depends on their expectations, not what is politically correct.

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    here we go again

    The federal government Tuesday granted Maine a waiver of a key provision in President Barack Obama's health care overhaul, citing the likelihood that enforcement could destabilize the state's market for individual health insurance.

    The U.S. Health and Human Services department said in a letter it would waive the requirement that insurers spend 80 cents to 85 cents of every premium dollar on medical care and quality improvement. Instead, the letter said, the state could maintain its 65 percent standard for three years, with the caveat that HHS intends to review the figures after two years.

    The decision makes Maine the first state to receive a waiver of the requirement. Similar requests are pending from Kentucky, Nevada and New Hampshire.

    In seeking the waiver, Maine Insurance Superintendent Mila Kofman feared that one of three major insurers offering individual plans in Maine would withdraw from the market altogether if the federal requirement remained in place. The insurer, MEGA Life and Health Insurance Co., has 37 percent of the state's individual market.
    ME Gets Break in Federal Health Care Law

    this time it's the OVERHEAD LIMITATION requirement

    the 1000 seiu's and fast food flippers so far freed were EXEMPTED from the YEARLY CAP requirement

    why do so many want out?

    why does sebelius let em go?

    what's she gonna say to the next applicant?

    what's wrong with obamacare, why do so many hate it, seek as much distance as possible?

    and why doesn't anyone defend it, y'know, ON SUBSTANCE?

    oh well, washington knows best
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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Interesting that even Dirty Harrys state wants out, maybe obamacare is not all it was cracked up to be? Where are all the libs to defend this action?

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    People don't want a Canadian replica of healthcare.

    Have any of you even went to Canada and observed the hospital waiting lines?

    Perplexing, truly.

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