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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Again, if we use your reasoning, we have no place for the private sector.
    that might be the most ridiculous leap i've seen around here

    and that's really saying something

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    that might be the most ridiculous leap i've seen around here

    and that's really saying something
    I know. I've read your posts.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    yesterday, on the crucial issue of SPENDING, the party of pelosi SPLIT almost exactly 50-50 on the republicans' force-fed cr

    Nancy Pelosi, Steny Hoyer split on spending bill - Simmi Aujla - POLITICO.com

    what do you think this congressional development portends moving forward for important elements of, oh, say, obamacare---such as THE MANDATE

    the president's party is pulverizing, full public display

    keep watching COMEDY CENTRAL, comrades

    it's more cheerful

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Simple. Nearly all are covered, meaning better access, which means better overall care, and we see they spend less. Less for more is better than paying more for less. Seems simple to me.
    Is that why england is having so much trouble paying for theirs?

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Is that why england is having so much trouble paying for theirs?
    Like us, other factors have effected their budgets. Health care isn't a stand alone proposition. But the fact remains, they spend less than we do.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Simple. Nearly all are covered, meaning better access, which means better overall care, and we see they spend less. Less for more is better than paying more for less. Seems simple to me.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_England
    The median wait time for a consultant led first appointment in English hospitals is a little over 3 weeks. For those not admitted immediately, the median wait time for in-patient treatment in English hospitals is a little under 6 weeks Ibid. Trusts are working towards an 18 week guarantee that means that the hospital must complete all tests and start treatment within 18 weeks of the date of the referral from the GP
    Speedy ****ing Gonzales of the medical profession.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Healthcare in England - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Speedy ****ing Gonzales of the medical profession.
    Speedy isn't always best. Have you seen studies that show sometimes waiting is better than acting quickly? However, there are places people wait a lot here. And, again, if you don't get care, waiting for some would be better than not getting any care.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Speedy isn't always best. Have you seen studies that show sometimes waiting is better than acting quickly? However, there are places people wait a lot here. And, again, if you don't get care, waiting for some would be better than not getting any care.
    The longest wait I ever experience in 46 years was a 2 day wait to get an MRI. My sinus surgery last year was scheduled within 24 hours of a final diagnosis and discussion of treatment options with my ENT physician. I am unaware of any family member or friend that has to wait more than a few days for any kind of surgery or even a specialist consultation.

    Since you mentioned 'studies that show sometimes waiting is better than acting quickly', perhaps you'd be kind enough to provide a link to said study, rather than make us look up something 'you' claimed?

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Like us, other factors have effected their budgets. Health care isn't a stand alone proposition. But the fact remains, they spend less than we do.
    The fact is they can't afford the government run healthcare. That is what you can look forward to here if the Democrats get their way

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Sources: Democrats giving up on Donald Berwick - Brett Coughlin - POLITICO.com

    berwick, bye bye, we hardly knew ye

    except for your open advocacy of health care rationing and redistribution

    why did the president pick you in the first place

    oh well

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