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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Why do you think the Federal Tax payer should fund the health insurance for someone else?
    I guess all of those unpaid ER bills were actually free.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You seem to not quite understand the role of the Federal govt. Did you ever take a civics or history class?
    You seem to think that only conservative ideology is taught in a civics class.

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    Name for me one Federal Program for social programs that cost what it was supposed to cost, did what it was supposed to do and solved a problem?
    I'm sure it will cost more than was estimated. As long as it continues to better the lives of Americans, I'm ok with that. If I have to pay higher taxes, fine. Don't get me wrong, I don't love this law. If I had my way, we'd have single payer. We should have at least had the public option - which was, by the way, supported by a majority of Americans.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You claim that thousands of Americans are enjoying better health care when the bill hasn't even gone into effect. How can that be? The point is we don't need Obamacare to improve the healthcare system. Identify the costs, all of them, and that wasn't done.
    Yes, I do make that claim. And so do the people who have taken advantage of the provisions of the law that have gone into effect.
    Tell them that their children can't stay on their insurance plan until the age of 26; that seniors can't enjoy more affordable drugs; that children can be denied coverage for pre-existing conditions. Think they'll be happy? There's a lot more to the law. Those are just the parts that have already been implemented.

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

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    January 31, 2010

    Breaking News: Florida Judge Rules Health Care Law Is Unconstitutional

    Story: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutionalby Florida U.S. Judge - Bloomberg
    It ain't over 'til it's over.

    SCOTUS will find it constitutional.
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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Badly... as you've been doing.
    Like I said, you're a real smart guy. Clearly. ...yaaawwn.....

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Let's hope a REAL change to health care can begin - such as purchasing healthcare across state lines and tort reform. Both of which will do more for people than almost anything in the current abortion of a bill.
    We talked about tort reform on another thread. It would make a very small difference in health care costs, about 1% TO 2%. Most people don't realize this.
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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    People are forced to buy social security for themselves (and others), so why would being forced to buy health insurance be different?
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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Obama's people disagree? Well, hell! Let's rock on then!

    Since ****ing when are, "Obama's people", the authorities on what's constitutional and what isn't? I mean, damn, they don't have the authority to make that call.
    Calm down, champ. I never said that Obama's people were the authority of anything constitutional. What I meant is that he had a smart people working with him. They're betting that the mandate is constitutional.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    The individual mandate was the GOP's idea. If it is thrown out then the public option will be seen as the next viable choice. I don't think that is what most GOP people actually want.
    Yeah, I suppose we can worry about that in another 80 years or so when the Dems next hold the presidency and filibuster-proof majorities.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by tryreading View Post
    We talked about tort reform on another thread. It would make a very small difference in health care costs, about 1% TO 2%. Most people don't realize this.
    GOP-Proposed Tort Reform Would Reduce Health Care Costs, Analysts Say - FoxNews.com
    But a liberal think tank found the some states have already tried such reforms and that expanding them nationally would reap massive savings.

    "We found that roughly, between $92 to $207 billion dollars per year can be saved from reducing defensive medicine," David Kendall, a senior fellow with Third Way, told Fox News.
    Issa: Obama Must Push Tort Reform to Lower Health Costs : Roll Call
    A 2008 study by PricewaterhouseCoopers found that defensive medicine is a top area of wasteful spending in health care, accounting for $210 billion annually.
    CBO Says Tort Reform Would Bring $54 Billion in Savings - washingtonpost.com
    Congressional budget analysts said Friday that lawmakers could save as much as $54 billion over the next decade by imposing an array of new limits on medical malpractice lawsuits -- 10 times more than previously estimated.
    Tort reform is not the end all, be all of reducing health care costs in America. But it IS an important part.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by tryreading View Post
    People are forced to buy social security for themselves (and others), so why would being forced to buy health insurance be different?
    No, people don't buy social security for themselves. Bush tried to give people the option to do that, but we all know where that went.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    If you want the country torn apart then by all means pursue the public option. Scorched earth if you folks try that.
    They don't care. That should be obvious from the last 2 years.
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