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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    The governors said in interviews and public sessions that the bills being drafted in Congress would not do enough to curb the growth in health spending.

    (again, like I have said, they didn't do too much, but did too little.)

    I agree with them, a single payer system would do more. The bill did not go far enough.
    Of course single payer is the logical solution, always has been, but unfortunately, there is no logic in politics, only Lobbyists, partisan pressure, and secret deals with big money interests.

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    None on my private insurance either. Private insurance really sucks!!!!
    Right, govt. will provide much better quality for you than the private sector, good luck

    By the way, wasn't it you that said there wouldn't be rationing?

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    Under kidney transplant proposal, younger patients would get the best organs

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    Of course single payer is the logical solution, always has been, but unfortunately, there is no logic in politics, only Lobbyists, partisan pressure, and secret deals with big money interests.

    ricksfolly
    I have asked this before but you and others ignore it, name for me one single payer system in the world that has been successful in lowering costs. IF it doesn't lower costs why do it?

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Right, govt. will provide much better quality for you than the private sector, good luck

    By the way, wasn't it you that said there wouldn't be rationing?

    Breaking News Alert: Organ-transplant system considering rules that would benefit younger, healthier people
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    The nation’s organ-transplant network is considering giving younger, healthier people preference over older, sicker patients for the best kidneys. The new rules would do away with the current system of giving priority primarily to patients who have been on the waiting list longest, as part of the most comprehensive overhaul of the transplant system in 25 years.

    Under kidney transplant proposal, younger patients would get the best organs
    If they give me that service and the private sector doesn't, yeah.


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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    If they give me that service and the private sector doesn't, yeah.

    I am sure you can provide examples of where the govt. has provided better service and quality than the private sector on important issues like healthcare, right?

    How about that Canadian system? Wonder how you would respond if it were your child in Canada?

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/02...igan-hospital/
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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    there is no logic in politics, only Lobbyists, partisan pressure, and secret deals with big money interests
    and the will of the american people

    tsunami tuesday, baby---most house seats since 38, most state reps and leg's in history, 10 gubs, 6 senators...

    the american people elected barack hussein obama rather convincingly in november, 08

    they musta rather decisively changed their minds since

    i wonder why

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I am sure you can provide examples of where the govt. has provided better service and quality than the private sector on important issues like healthcare, right?

    How about that Canadian system? Wonder how you would respond if it were your child in Canada?

    FoxNews.com - Canadian Family in Life Support Battle Places Hope in Michigan Hospital
    Where has the private sector been asked to do exactly the same thing?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I am sure you can provide examples of where the govt. has provided better service and quality than the private sector on important issues like healthcare, right?

    How about that Canadian system? Wonder how you would respond if it were your child in Canada?

    FoxNews.com - Canadian Family in Life Support Battle Places Hope in Michigan Hospital
    You realize if she is in a vegatative state, she is already dead? Don't you remember the Chavo case? You might find your insurance company wouldn't pay for this either. And for the record, if my child was in a vegatative state, dead, I would say good by and grieve. The pain would be terrible, but I don't know anyone who can raise the dead other than God.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Where has the private sector been asked to do exactly the same thing?
    You simply cannot admit that you are wrong. I haven't seen the private sector preventing treatment for anyone.

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You simply cannot admit that you are wrong. I haven't seen the private sector preventing treatment for anyone.
    If you ahven't seen it, you haven't look. Insurance companies deny care by denying payment routinely.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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