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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    The act of him being told was objective, what was said and how it was interpreted is subjective.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    The act of him being told was objective, what was said and how it was interpreted is subjective.
    No. What was said, was said, and therefore objective. Interpreted. Let's try that:

    "Sir, we have reason to doubt his story. He's unrelaiable."


    Give me different interpretations.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Look, we can objectively assess that Bush recieved certain information. We can objectively say he said and made certain arguments. We have his words. And we can make a objective assessment on this. Objective only means without emotion or bias: not influenced by personal feelings, interpretations, or prejudice; based on facts; unbiased: an objective opinion. Objective | Define Objective at Dictionary.com
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    Not sure about assesment though - it depends on the situation. Unless you can basically follow the evidence like the scientific method, then sure. As I said before, I didn't really go into this debate for the politics of it, so I don't know what this relates to.
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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1059291067
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    Not sure about assesment though - it depends on the situation. Unless you can basically follow the evidence like the scientific method, then sure. As I said before, I didn't really go into this debate for the politics of it, so I don't know what this relates to.
    You can approach things with reasonable objectiveness and reach reasonable objective conclusions. That's all I'm saying. I think some hide behind it being an opinion when there is real evidence that can be looked at with some reasonable objectivity.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No. What was said, was said, and therefore objective. Interpreted. Let's try that:

    "Sir, we have reason to doubt his story. He's unrelaiable."


    Give me different interpretations.
    What was provided was an opinion, a personal view - it's not objective, but subjective.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Since this thread is about Obamacare this may help you see it is not going anywhere

    House blocks funding for health care law - On Politics: Covering the US Congress, Governors, and the 2012 Election - USATODAY.com

    The GOP-led House voted today to block funding to implement the nation's health care law.

    The action came on several amendments to a must-pass spending bill that would pay for government operations from March through September.

    Specifically, the House voted to prohibit any funds be used by the Internal Revenue Service to carry out the law's mandate that Americans buy health insurance. The individual mandate, one of the law's key tenets, has been struck down by federal courts.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Debt-ridden, unconstitutional, and defunded.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No. What was said, was said, and therefore objective. Interpreted. Let's try that:

    "Sir, we have reason to doubt his story. He's unrelaiable."


    Give me different interpretations.
    Doubt doesn't mean that it's not true. So the way someone takes that statement is very subjective.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Exactly. Nowhere in the Constitution is Congress authorized to regulate inactivity. Congress doesn't have the power to fine us for not doing something.
    I asked earlier about this. With Social Security, we have to pay in to a system that benefits us at some point, similar to the way national health insurance would operate. If you work and get paid, and don't pay in to SS, you will certainly be fined, maybe pursued for a criminal act.
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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    If I fall down. Is that fact, that I fell, objective or subjective?
    Actually falling down is objective, talking or thinking about it is subjective.

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