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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Where is the Judicial activism here? Looks to me like they are interpreting the law. Did you read the decision? Well written and hardly judicial activism. Judicial activists ignore the Constitution.
    I think liberals are so used to judicial activism, they don't know a ruling that's actually grounded in Constitution when they see one.
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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    No it won't. Obama if he's smart won't appeal it at all.


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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Obamacare will be a major political issue in 2012. Obama will be playing defense.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Obamacare will be a major political issue in 2012. Obama will be playing defense.
    We'll see. I wouldn't be surprised if the individual mandate is struck down by the supreme court and the rest is intact. The rest of the major provisions are quite popular, too.

    In either case, it really doesn't matter what these minor judges say. It'll come down to the supreme court and kennedy in the end.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    That won't work as a business model. Insurance companies would end up bankrupt in quick order. The way to do it would probably be something similar to HIPAA for individual coverage. This would result in higher premiums, but so would Obamacare, regardless of their claim.
    I thought that was part of the strategy - then the public option comes back into play and saves the day.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    No it won't. Obama if he's smart won't appeal it at all.

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    Oh please eveyone is quick to claim Obama is brilliant but so far his actions have shown him to be of less than average intelligence. He doesn't learn from his mistakes either.

    I am hoping that this ruling will be reinforced.

    I would love to see some reform in the Medical field but it should cover real problems.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Oh please eveyone is quick to claim Obama is brilliant but so far his actions have shown him to be of less than average intelligence. He doesn't learn from his mistakes either.

    I am hoping that this ruling will be reinforced.

    I would love to see some reform in the Medical field but it should cover real problems.
    Well stated, haven't seen any evidence of that brilliance and intelligence. His results sure don't show it either.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy
    This was not a surprise. It'll be appealed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    No it won't. Obama if he's smart won't appeal it at all.


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    Yes, it will be appealed. Obama would be stupid not to appeal it. Obama is very smart politically. And he surrounds himself with other smart people who know the law and the Constitution just as much, or more, as he does. The SCOTUS will uphold the law.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    Yes, it will be appealed. Obama would be stupid not to appeal it. Obama is very smart politically. And he surrounds himself with other smart people who know the law and the Constitution just as much, or more, as he does. The SCOTUS will uphold the law.
    Where in the Constitution is an individual mandate for health insurance authorized? Did you read the ruling? Suggest you do, well written and no the law will not be withheld.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Where in the Constitution is an individual mandate for health insurance authorized? Did you read the ruling? Suggest you do, well written and no the law will not be withheld.
    I'm no lawyer; but the Obama administration is betting that the mandate falls under the commerce clause of the Constitution. From what I've heard of that argument, it makes sense to me. Obama knows the Constitution. His people know the Constitution. I'm guessing they made sure all of their T's were crossed and I's dotted.

    I did read the ruling. So what. It's ONE judges decision. Two other judges ruled the law is constitutional. Your'e right: the law will not be withheld. It will be upheld. Glad you agree with me.
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