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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Good. I'm not afraid of the issue and do think in the long run it will hurt conservatives. I think they misread the public on this.
    I think the opposite is true, when's the last time a piece of federal legislation has compelled more than half of the states to sue to have it struck down in court? guess we'll see.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

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    Wait until the people of Iowa get their next tax bill to pay for the increase in Medicaid spending. Good luck.
    Right. After people start seeing the actual effects of the measures in the bill, it will only become more reviled than it already is. It's destined for the trash heap, one way or another.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by other View Post
    I think the opposite is true, when's the last time a piece of federal legislation has compelled more than half of the states to sue to have it struck down in court? guess we'll see.
    Those are more political than anything else. It is not a measure of the public. But you're right that we will see, eventually.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

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    I find it amusing that you actualyl think you have some great point and are winning this conversation. I keep checking in to find out what your next silly statement will be.
    awwww....how sweet...conservative has a friend

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by other View Post
    Right. After people start seeing the actual effects of the measures in the bill, it will only become more reviled than it already is. It's destined for the trash heap, one way or another.
    You mean like the popular provisions that have already gone into effect? Yeah, I'm sure the public is thrilled that the GOP wants to bring back pre-existing condition exclusions, make prescription drugs more expensive for seniors, and allow insurers to refuse coverage for children.


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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    You mean like the popular provisions that have already gone into effect? Yeah, I'm sure the public is thrilled that the GOP wants to bring back pre-existing condition exclusions, make prescription drugs more expensive for seniors, and allow insurers to refuse coverage for children.
    That is a lie but that is what liberals do when they cannot win on the issue, it is all about the mandate and the expansion of Medicaid that your state will have to pay. don't let the facts get in the way of your partisanship.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I'm not afraid of the issue
    of what possible worth can the linkless opinion of a person be who believes a president does not need the house to get his funding?

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    I'm sure the public is thrilled that the GOP wants to bring back pre-existing condition exclusions, make prescription drugs more expensive for seniors, and allow insurers to refuse coverage for children.
    that's absurd

    those aren't the parts of obamacare the public is concerned about

    these are:

    Capitol Briefing - Senate votes to keep Medicare cuts

    ER visits, costs climb - The Boston Globe

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/02/bu.../02health.html

    Senate passes doc fix - The Hill's Healthwatch

    Budget Office Rebuts Democratic Claims on Medicare (Update1) - Bloomberg

    Governors balk over what healthcare bill will cost states - The Boston Globe

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    of what possible worth can the linkless opinion of a person be who believes a president does not need the house to get his funding?
    I do ignore you a lot because you offer nothing intelligent. But, you misread. The house proposal won't get passed, and this means something else will, which will be funding. Sorry you miss the point.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    You mean like the popular provisions that have already gone into effect?
    I haven't seen any huge ground-swell of support for this legislation yet, so yeah. And it'll only get less popular over time.

    Yeah, I'm sure the public is thrilled that the GOP wants to bring back pre-existing condition exclusions, make prescription drugs more expensive for seniors, and allow insurers to refuse coverage for children.
    Emotional appeals aside, there are some people actually oppose this legislation on principle and realize such problems can be fixed without unconstitutional mandates.

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