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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    not the point...i'm ok with you getting your principal back, heck i'd even say take the 1% or whatever interest your contribution would have earned from government securities....but after that, if you were true to your principals, true to your core values, you would quit recieving further payments...and this still doesnt address your using medicare....healthcare is your responsibility, not the governments, remember saying that?

    If that is the case then give me back everything I have put in it for the past 30 years or so, and let me invest how I see fit, I am sure that I will fare better.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    If that is the case then give me back everything I have put in it for the past 30 years or so, and let me invest how I see fit, I am sure that I will fare better.

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    what about medicare? will you forgo that?

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    not the point...i'm ok with you getting your principal back, heck i'd even say take the 1% or whatever interest your contribution would have earned from government securities....but after that, if you were true to your principals, true to your core values, you would quit recieving further payments...and this still doesnt address your using medicare....healthcare is your responsibility, not the governments, remember saying that?
    So you believe that investing your own money for 35 years that at the end of that time you deserve to just get your investment back without interest? There is definitely something wrong with the education system in this country that created that kind of mindset. notice how you aren't getting any support here on your claims?

    J-mac is correct though, simply give us back what we invested in a lump sum and let us handle it. I am for that as well instead of getting a monthly check. Day one, give us that "lock box" money.
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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    what about medicare? will you forgo that?
    What about Medicare? Medicare is a separate tax taken out of the paycheck.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    not the point...i'm ok with you getting your principal back, heck i'd even say take the 1% or whatever interest your contribution would have earned from government securities....but after that, if you were true to your principals, true to your core values, you would quit recieving further payments...and this still doesnt address your using medicare....healthcare is your responsibility, not the governments, remember saying that?
    Sounds beautiful to me... when can I get my money back + interest % and stop contributing?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So you believe that investing your own money for 35 years that at the end of that time you deserve to just get your investment back without interest? There is definitely something wrong with the education system in this country that created that kind of mindset. notice how you aren't getting any support here on your claims?
    answer the question....remember saying that healthcare is a personal responsibility? why do you use medicare? why are you willing to take out more than you put in for social security? not really standing by those core values and everything you have preached , are you? ulike you, i don't need an 'amen choir' or someone to rush in and defend me...i'm doing just fine here.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

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    What about Medicare? Medicare is a separate tax taken out of the paycheck.
    that is a government healthcare program chief....thought you were into the whole 'personal responsibility' thing?

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    that is a government healthcare program chief....thought you were into the whole 'personal responsibility' thing?

    He is. Same rule applies. I have contributed to Medicare since I started working, yet I have my own health insurance policy. So give that money back as well and let me put it in a HSA, as well as investments, and buy a catastrophic plan and I'll be just fine.


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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    that is a government healthcare program chief....thought you were into the whole 'personal responsibility' thing?
    And so give us those tax payments back as well and we'll likewise get private insurance with it. What's the big deal?

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    He is. Same rule applies. I have contributed to Medicare since I started working, yet I have my own health insurance policy. So give that money back as well and let me put it in a HSA, and I'll be just fine.


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    Let's do the same thing with Social Security - allow people to get paid back via a tax payment + interest so I can invest that money in my own retirement as I've been doing.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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