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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    #1 applies ....
    Being a liberal apparently allows you to misapply definitions any way you want. keep digging that hole deeper and deeper. The concept of SS appears to be foreign to a union member.
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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    yes j, i am a uaw member, no j, i don't get a pension...your showing your lack of knowledge on unions....i have a 401k

    No pension? Wow, huh....Man, I'd go on strike....Your Union brothers and sisters in other unions still have theirs....Oh wait, you guys own the companies now after Obama stole them from the actual shareholders and gave them to you...I forgot....Carry on.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No, that's not what I said....But I see how you roll. At one time you told me you were a teacher in a local collage out there in Iowa. Now, in the other thread you are everything from former war hero, to lowly errand boy. So I guess no truths are forthcoming are they Joe.



    I thought you told me before that you were a UAW member? No?


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    J. I didn't go back to school until I was well in my 30's. As a young man, I did about everything one can do. Didn't knwo what I wanted to be when I grew up. I was what was once called poor white trash. I drank heavy and fought often. But, I grew, married, and went back to school. I've only been teaching for ten years. I'm 54.

    But the point is, you're so busy arguing with the mythical liberal, you seldom argue with the person before you.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    J. I didn't go back to school until I was well in my 30's. As a young man, I did about everything one can do. Didn't knwo what I wanted to be when I grew up. I was what was once called poor white trash. I drank heavy and fought often. But, I grew, married, and went back to school. I've only been teaching for ten years. I'm 54.

    But the point is, you're so busy arguing with the mythical liberal, you seldom argue with the person before you.
    The person before me IS a liberal, as denoted by your own designation.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No pension? Wow, huh....Man, I'd go on strike....Your Union brothers and sisters in other unions still have theirs....Oh wait, you guys own the companies now after Obama stole them from the actual shareholders and gave them to you...I forgot....Carry on.

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    your total lack of knowledge on the topic of unions is simply amazing.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The person before me IS a liberal, as denoted by your own designation.

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    Not the liberal you throw up. I fully understand being a working man. I have fully lived where you live in terms of life experience. There is no ivory tower in my life. And I serve a very conservative and rual population, with very conservative and rual instructors. You spend too much time swollowing sterotypes.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Being a liberal apparently allows you to misapply definitions any way you want. keep digging that hole deeper and deeper. The concept of SS appears to be foreign to a union member.
    '. a pretense of having a virtuous character, moral or religious beliefs or principles, etc., that one does not really possess' .....you don't stand by your principles conservative, your own words convict you, your own words prove my point.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    unless you terminate your benefits, you are no better than the 'welfare queens' or those who abuse unemployment compensation....you are willing to draw out more benefits than you ever put in....if you seriously 'need' those benefits, this cast alot of doubt in my mind, of everything you have ever claimed to be....hard to believe you ran a company with 'x' amount of employees, worth 'x' millions of dollars, and didnt manage to stash away quite a bit of pocket change....hmmmmm.... seems your views on those you see as being a 'drain' on society change when it comes to YOU.
    What you're arguing is fallacy.

    There is no reasonable issue with using a service you are forced to pay for, while also opposing government forcing you to pay for that service.
    And it's also not hypocritical.

    Please understand this so you can move on to something more constructive.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No pension? Wow, huh....Man, I'd go on strike....Your Union brothers and sisters in other unions still have theirs....Oh wait, you guys own the companies now after Obama stole them from the actual shareholders and gave them to you...I forgot....Carry on.

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    They're using his pension to pay Eminem for the cool commercial during the Super Bowl.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    What you're arguing is fallacy.

    There is no reasonable issue with using a service you are forced to pay for, while also opposing government forcing you to pay for that service.
    And it's also not hypocritical.

    Please understand this so you can move on to something more constructive.
    sorry mach, conservative has long made arguments and speeches about 'personal responsibility' and against what he considers to be socialist/liberal entitlement programs...he is being hypocritical in receiving more benefits than he paid in to social security, and in using medicare, when he has stated several times that healthcare is a 'personal responsibility', and not a government one....my point stands.

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