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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Ugh! Is it so bad you had to link the version with Barbara Streisand?
    Haha. I just thought it was very appropriate.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Because adults with preexisting conditions shouldn't be denied insurance either?
    Ok, you're beating around the bush here. You can argue that people with pre-existing conditions shouldn't be denied coverage, thats one topic. Mandating people who don't have pre-existing problems with them is another, and isn't needed, except it's an inadvertent way to help cover the cost of the pre-existing patients, plain and simple.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Centrist View Post
    Yes, those children with preexisting conditions and cancer patients who've been dropped from their health care will be thrilled.
    Emotions are no good in this debate.

    We can't afford this bill anyways. It should have never been written on those grounds alone.

    You can't spend your way our of debt, and by the looks of it, our currency is on the verge of collapse and your answer is to spend even more money we don't have and can't print enough of?

    Seriously?
    Last edited by TheHat; 01-31-11 at 06:39 PM.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by DontDoIt View Post
    Ok, you're beating around the bush here. You can argue that people with pre-existing conditions shouldn't be denied coverage, thats one topic. Mandating people who don't have pre-existing problems with them is another, and isn't needed, except it's an inadvertent way to help cover the cost of the pre-existing patients, plain and simple.
    If we get right down to it, what we call health insurance isn't really insurance at all.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    So how about a regulation that pre existing can not be used by insurance companies to raise premiums or deny coverage
    That won't work as a business model. Insurance companies would end up bankrupt in quick order. The way to do it would probably be something similar to HIPAA for individual coverage. This would result in higher premiums, but so would Obamacare, regardless of their claim.
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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    2-2 Now.

    I don't understand why this really matters though, it could be 100-0 in favor of the law but the SCOTUS can still knock it down. Same goes for the converse.

    Eventually this law, or at least that one clause, will be decided by Kennedy.



    I don't really care about the outcome. If my job didn't provide health insurance, I'd just buy it when I got sick and pay for it otherwise :3
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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Does this mean that conservatives don't mind judicial activism now?
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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Does this mean that conservatives don't mind judicial activism now?
    Maybe we should have left it up to Schumer's three branches of the govt, the House, the Senate, and the President? LOL, brilliant.

    Where is the Judicial activism here? Looks to me like they are interpreting the law. Did you read the decision? Well written and hardly judicial activism. Judicial activists ignore the Constitution.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    This was not a surprise. It'll be appealed.
    No it won't. Obama if he's smart won't appeal it at all.


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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Does this mean that conservatives don't mind judicial activism now?
    Does this mean liberals are against it now?
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