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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    no...i'm sorry, your answer is incorrect....you will , if you live long enough, draw more out than you ever put in.
    You're right... My SS checks started in 1991 and so far I got back 9 times more than I put in... and growing every month.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    You're right... My SS checks started in 1991 and so far I got back 9 times more than I put in... and growing every month.

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    Good for you, did you send back to the govt. that which is over what you contributed and if not why not?

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

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    Do you have any idea how much I contributed to SS in 35 years? Doesn't stop you from that liberal arrogance of knowing all. You have no clue just like you don't understand the concept of investing your own money. why would anyone expect to get their money back with interest? If someone forces you to invest why wouldn't you expect interest?
    the question was, once you got your initial investment back, will you decline further payments from social security? i didnt ask you to start off on your whole 'you don't know crap, you are a liberal...blah blah blah...liberal....blahblahblah..liberal' spiel


    what i said stands, odds are, with inflation, and assuming you don't keel over early, you will get your money back several times over...are you willing to decline further social security payments after you get your initial investment back? or are you going to be a hypocrite and live off the 'tax payers' for the rest of your life?? what about medicare? i would think you wouldnt be on it, as health care is a 'personal responsibility'...remember?

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    You're right... My SS checks started in 1991 and so far I got back 9 times more than I put in... and growing every month.

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    thank you...

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    "crickets".....

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    no...i'm sorry, your answer is incorrect....you will , if you live long enough, draw more out than you ever put in.
    Good God I hope so.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    yep, hypocritical...when you get back what you put in(no interest on it), are you going quit accepting payments from social security?
    Not sure about the rest here, but I would be more then happy to settle for a lump sum payment of all I've paid into SS and Medicare, and be able to add that into IRA's or other retirement programs that paid an interest on invested money.

    Now randel, this is just a question, but do you have a IRA, or a 401K ? If you do, do you expect to be able to get your money out of it? How is SS any different?
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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I don't have to prove him wrong, read the ruling and take it up with the Judge. There is no severability clause in the law therefore the entire law is unconstitutional because of the mandate
    Yes, you do. You seem to think that the ruling means that the entire law is void in the entire country. You're wrong. I pointed out where you're wrong. The ruling only applies to the districts that the court has jurisdiction over. Also, the provisions of the law that have already been implemented are still in place. Therefore, the entire law hasn't been thrown out. Only the SCOTUS can make that call. What don't you understand about this? You're wrong. If you think you're so right, then prove me wrong. Give me some proof, not your opinion.
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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    The entire law is currently unconstitutional in over 50% of the country right now. That's just the law. Like I said, if Obama doesn't like it, he can ask for a stay or file an appeal.
    But that doesn't make the entire law unconstitutional in the entire country, like some people here have argued.


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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    Not sure about the rest here, but I would be more then happy to settle for a lump sum payment of all I've paid into SS and Medicare, and be able to add that into IRA's or other retirement programs that paid an interest on invested money.

    Now randel, this is just a question, but do you have a IRA, or a 401K ? If you do, do you expect to be able to get your money out of it? How is SS any different?
    yes , i do have a 401k, and hope to get money out someday....conservative has always railed against what he considers to be socialist/liberal 'entitlement' programs....i asked him if he would be willing to refuse further payments from social security, and to remove himself from his medicare plan...i've tied this into what is his proclaimed view of 'personal responsibiltiy', which ties into this thread, in that he views health care as a personal responsibility. if healthcare is a personal responsibility in his view, why is he on medicare? he has stated before that he would like to do away with social security, so....why is he on it? seems a bit hypocritical to me.

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