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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    you view healthcare as a 'personal responsibility '(translation...if you have money you can have it, if not, tough sh$$) issue, i view it as something different...i believe you should have access to health care, other than just going to an emergency room, and that you shouldnt be 'screwed' just because you don't have or make alot of money...money should not be the deciding factor in determing access to health, sorry.
    use some common sense on this issue.
    What you fail to realize is you're not so much asking for healthcare but the access to the benefits from other peoples labor for free. Providing your family or yourself to the access to other peoples labor involves and should involve paying for it so the labor itself can be used to provide for other peoples way of life. Use some common sense on the issue.

    If you wish to make money not a factor in life, why would I and would you do the labor in the first place, anyway? To help your fellow man? So I'm going to learn a trade that involves thousands of hours for good will? Ok?
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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    you view healthcare as a 'personal responsibility '(translation...if you have money you can have it, if not, tough sh$$) issue, i view it as something different...i believe you should have access to health care, other than just going to an emergency room, and that you shouldnt be 'screwed' just because you don't have or make alot of money...money should not be the deciding factor in determing access to health, sorry.
    use some common sense on this issue.
    You seem to have a misunderstanding between healthcare and healthcare insurance. Everyone has access to healthcare and a very small percentage in this country cannot afford healthcare insurance. You buy what this Administration tells you even though they haven't told you the truth once. Healthcare is a personal responsibility because much of it depends on personal activities. What you eat, drink, or how you act affects your healthcare. If the Federal Govt. can force you to buy insurance then they can force you to do anything else they want including what to eat and how to live. This country wasn't built on those principles.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    What you fail to realize is you're not so much asking for healthcare but the access to the benefits from other peoples labor for free. Providing your family or yourself to the access to other peoples labor involves and should involve working for it so the labor itself can be used to provide for other peoples way of life. Use some common sense on the issue.

    If you wish to make money not a factor in life, why would I and would you do the labor in the first place, anyway? To help your fellow man? So I'm going to learn a trade that involves thousands of hours for good will? Ok?
    sorry, no....basic health care should be a priority in this country, no one should have to wait till they are on deaths door to be seen by a doctor...this isnt a third world country. i work, i pay taxes, i don't have a problem with some of those tax dollars paying for basic health care, that benefits everyone...

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You seem to have a misunderstanding between healthcare and healthcare insurance. Everyone has access to healthcare and a very small percentage in this country cannot afford healthcare insurance. You buy what this Administration tells you even though they haven't told you the truth once. Healthcare is a personal responsibility because much of it depends on personal activities. What you eat, drink, or how you act affects your healthcare. If the Federal Govt. can force you to buy insurance then they can force you to do anything else they want including what to eat and how to live. This country wasn't built on those principles.
    no conservative, the only one here with a misunderstanding is YOU....your whole philosophy is 'screw the rest of you, i got mine'. tell me, you get social security? medicare?

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    sorry, no....basic health care should be a priority in this country, no one should have to wait till they are on deaths door to be seen by a doctor...this isnt a third world country. i work, i pay taxes, i don't have a problem with some of those tax dollars paying for basic health care, that benefits everyone...
    Is that what is happening to you? Why don't you contribute to a local charity and direct it towards healthcare expenses of someone else.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    no conservative, the only one here with a misunderstanding is YOU....your whole philosophy is 'screw the rest of you, i got mine'. tell me, you get social security? medicare?
    Keep trying to bait and troll randel. Boring and a waste of time. bye

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

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    Keep trying to bait and troll randel. Boring and a waste of time. bye
    answer my question, you get social security? medicare?

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    answer my question, you get social security? medicare?
    Yes and I paid for both just like I pay for my own healthcare

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yes and I paid for both just like I pay for my own healthcare
    no, you paid for the guy/gal in front of you, you didnt pay for your own, and since you didnt pay for your own, perhaps you should decline social security, and medicare...after all, you didnt provide it for yourself, but are taking from those behind you.

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    Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    no, you paid for the guy/gal in front of you, you didnt pay for your own, and since you didnt pay for your own, perhaps you should decline social security, and medicare...after all, you didnt provide it for yourself, but are taking from those behind you.
    Now that is typical liberal logic, amazing. I contributed to the SS fund for 35 years and now I should decline getting my money back? No wonder liberalism is a failure.

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