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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    You know, just cause something's in the past doesn't make it untrue.
    it's just such a loser, sir

    you're never gonna convince THIS electorate that the republicans have smudged a fingerprint of responsibility on THIS pig of an obamacare

    not after what's gone down the last 2 years

    1993 is history, not politics

    americans TODAY are concerned with:

    Capitol Briefing - Senate votes to keep Medicare cuts

    ER visits, costs climb - The Boston Globe

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/02/bu.../02health.html

    Senate passes doc fix - The Hill's Healthwatch

    Budget Office Rebuts Democratic Claims on Medicare (Update1) - Bloomberg

    Governors balk over what healthcare bill will cost states - The Boston Globe[/QUOTE]

    Director's Blog Blog Archive Additional Information on CBO’s Preliminary Analysis of H.R. 2

    i really don't think senator mccaskill, et al, is taking her stand AGAINST the mandate because bob dole, or some equally obsolete figure from antiquity, once in the days of hillary-care floated a trial balloon for a couple weeks

    bottom line---why is everyone running away?

    look it like this---you won't hear a one of em, mccaskill, nelson, nelson, webb, manchin, lieberman, tester, budget chair kent conrad, etc---mention a word about this mandate being "a republican idea" when they take to the floor, whichever way they ultimately fall

    it's simply too ludicrous

    ie, a loser

    stay up
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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    I never said anything about convincing the electorate. I just wanted to straighten out the facts.

    The American population isn't informed a lot of the time and there's not much we can do about it.


    And what Americans are concerned with 'TODAY' can be found here Most Important Problem
    Healthcare only 13% list as most important and most of those people are probably those who can't afford it (thought admittedly this is just a logical conjecture on my part)

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    I just wanted to straighten out the facts.
    i know, but it's a point, in today's politics, with no direction

    The American population isn't informed a lot of the time and there's not much we can do about it.
    well, YOU could read the LINKS from nyt, wapo, the globe, the hill, bloomberg, the hill, the cbo...

    Healthcare only 13% list as most important and most of those people are probably those who can't afford it (thought admittedly this is just a logical conjecture on my part)
    so now obamacare is a small concern...

    please

    the passion on these pages exposes that particular as specious

    too much microscopic argumentation i'm hearing

    tsuanmi tuesday told the truth

    stay up

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    I never said anything about convincing the electorate. I just wanted to straighten out the facts.

    The American population isn't informed a lot of the time and there's not much we can do about it.


    And what Americans are concerned with 'TODAY' can be found here Most Important Problem
    Healthcare only 13% list as most important and most of those people are probably those who can't afford it (thought admittedly this is just a logical conjecture on my part)
    Your right if the public and been informed Obama would not be president.

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    I'm not sure why you're harping on me for this so much. I don't even support the bill.
    I just like the facts to be on the table when discussing these things so at the very least the citizens on these forums aren't misinformed.

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Your right if the public and been informed Obama would not be president.
    Didn't really understand this. Can you rephrase please?

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    Didn't really understand this. Can you rephrase please?
    People voted for Obama without really knowing his history or past political views. How many knew how Obama voted when a Illinois state congressman

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    People voted for Obama without really knowing his history or past political views. How many knew how Obama voted when a Illinois state congressman
    Oh, I see. Well, I'd say if those who cared about being informed did the research we'd probably have seen a change (in all elections, really) of no more than 10%. Too many in this country vote along party line and not merit.

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    Here's a tip for you, champ. Before you go around accusing me of not providing evidence, stop and look at the evidence that I already provided just for you. I Linked NUMEROUS articles about the mandate. Every single one of them was enough proof to satisfy a ****ing five yr old. But you.. Oh you're so ****ing special that you ignored every single one of them because you were too blinded by your own partisan views. I'm not going to link my previous posts just to have you ignore them again. If you want to see the evidence that I provided just for you, then read the posts that I already made. I don't expect anybody to take my word for anything. Which is why I cited articles as proof. Not my word. Articles. Evidence. Proof. Let me spell it out for you again: I didn't just say "The mandate was a Republican idea" and leave it at that. I cited articles with quotes from Republicans who said that the mandate was their idea. DO you get it yet, or do you need sock puppets to help explain it to you?


    Yeah, you ****ing wish, PAL. You want to ignore me, then do it yourself. Personally I enjoy reading your ridiculous posts. It makes me feel better knowing that I'm not you. You gonna throw me out on my ear? Well come and do it, tough guy. I'm not going anywhere. Deal with it.
    Maybe 2 months............champ
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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    Oh, I see. Well, I'd say if those who cared about being informed did the research we'd probably have seen a change (in all elections, really) of no more than 10%. Too many in this country vote along party line and not merit.
    No many voted against Bush policies and the GOP yet we still have the Patriot act ant the tax cuts. Obnama decieved. Obama in a racist church for 20 years and the boerds he served on should have been warning signs. As I said few to this day know about things he voted on in Illinois

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