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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    January 31, 2010

    Breaking News: Florida Judge Rules Health Care Law Is Unconstitutional

    Story: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutionalby Florida U.S. Judge - Bloomberg
    A win for the good guys.

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

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    A win for the good guys.
    enjoy it while it lasts...supreme court here we come

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    A win for the good guys.
    Who... conservative pundits on TV (who already have good coverage)

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    enjoy it while it lasts...supreme court here we come
    Yep it's going there, but I wouldn't seem so sure, remember the court is still 5 conservative to 4 liberal ... going to be very close any way you look at it. I know I wouldn't put money on which way they rule.

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Who... conservative pundits on TV (who already have good coverage)
    Nope for us that believe and follow the Consutution.

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    Yep it's going there, but I wouldn't seem so sure, remember the court is still 5 conservative to 4 liberal ... going to be very close any way you look at it. I know I wouldn't put money on which way they rule.
    Good, then all mandates will be thrown out. We'll no longer have to buy auto insurance. Perhaps we'll no longer have to pay income tax.

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Good, then all mandates will be thrown out. We'll no longer have to buy auto insurance. Perhaps we'll no longer have to pay income tax.
    Perhaps you can show me where the federal government forces you to buy auto insurance. I believe that is mandated by the states. Is it not?

    As for the federal income tax, can you tell me what you are purchasing with that ?

    I'm certainly not a legal scholar, but even to me it seem an over reach of our governments power to force someone to buy anything. What would be next, cars? After all we have an financial stake in two auto companies, so would it be a reach, to be told that you must buy a car from one of them, after all that would be in the interest of the US wouldn't it?

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    Nope for us that believe and follow the Consutution.
    So, we go back to paying for the freeloaders who show up at the ER w/o coverage?

    He's an activist judge alright, but for what side.

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    Perhaps you can show me where the federal government forces you to buy auto insurance. I believe that is mandated by the states. Is it not?
    Um... if it's unconstitutional for the Fed, it's unconstitutional for the states. State law can not violate the U.S. Constitution.

    As for the federal income tax, can you tell me what you are purchasing with that ?
    Federal services. And I said perhaps. A broader reading of the judges decision, and blamo... no IRS.

    I'm certainly not a legal scholar, but even to me it seem an over reach of our governments power to force someone to buy anything. What would be next, cars? After all we have an financial stake in two auto companies, so would it be a reach, to be told that you must buy a car from one of them, after all that would be in the interest of the US wouldn't it?
    No one's forcing you to buy, just pay the relatively small fee to cover your care should you turn up in the ER.

    But if you don't pay income tax, you go to jail. That feels like force.

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Good, then all mandates will be thrown out. We'll no longer have to buy auto insurance. Perhaps we'll no longer have to pay income tax.
    the complete fallacy of that argument has been explained many times on this board, but I'm not at all surprised you'd revert to using it.

    You have a CHOICE about driving... drive or dont.

    There is no CHOICE about breathing.

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