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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Amazed View Post
    LOL.....I posted the Law, you posted articles that tell you what to think about the Law...and now you're cross

    You aren't capable Boo....it's ok.....
    Yes, you posted the law. Answer the question. That is what discussion is. Again, I don't think you understand what you posted. But I can't know for sure until you answer. Step up, shows your reasoning.

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    You don't get this do you?

    The answer to the question can begin with that portion of the Law...because that portion leads to the ultimate answer you seek.

    Now, you may dance around it all day..but you are looking foolish as you do.


    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yes, you posted the law. Answer the question. That is what discussion is. Again, I don't think you understand what you posted. But I can't know for sure until you answer. Step up, shows your reasoning.
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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Amazed View Post
    You don't get this do you?

    The answer to the question can begin with that portion of the Law...because that portion leads to the ultimate answer you seek.

    Now, you may dance around it all day..but you are looking foolish as you do.
    The only person dancing is you. You've been asked a question and you refuse to answer, showing you really don't want to discuss anything. you must be very unsire of yourself.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    obamacare---3/4 of a trillion in new taxes, half T cuts to medicare while expanding it, quarter T burden on bankrupt states, docs fleeing depsite the quarter T fix offbudget, the double counting of another quarter T, er traffic and costs increase, more than a thousand i-wanna-waivers already approved...

    why do so many want OUT?

    why does hhs keep letting em GO?

    obamacare's a LOSER which is why barack hussein and no self respecting forums member can talk about it anymore

    but WE can, the patriotic opposition

    and we WILL

    endlessly

    party on, peeps

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    That is true and government health care will not stop it they will just raise taxes
    I don't know what might stop it, but my point was there is astronomical waste and fraud in the private medical system that exists now. You seemed to say that that would be more of an issue with a public insurance system. I don't know. Yes, there is always waste in a government bureaucracy, but the current system is so expensive that it may be unsustainable at some point. For a lot of people, it already is.
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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Congress on Tuesday passed the first major changes to last year’s health care law, undoing both a burdensome paperwork requirement for small businesses and rewriting part of the way the health exchange subsidies are paid for.

    The changes are complex and don’t affect the fundamental operations of the health law, but Republicans said they are symbolic nonetheless because they mark the first repeals of significant provisions from Democrats’ signature legislative achievement under President Obama.

    The bill passed the Senate on Tuesday with strong bipartisan support, 87-12, and goes to Mr. Obama, who will face a big test over whether to sign it.

    Congress makes first major dent in health care law - Washington Times

    The dismantling begins.....


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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    B-B-C BOMBSHELL:

    today:

    BBC News - Surgeons raise alarm over waiting

    Surgeons say patients in some parts of England have spent months waiting in pain because of delayed operations or new restrictions on who qualifies for treatment. In several areas routine surgery was put on hold for months, while in many others new thresholds for hip and knee replacements have been introduced. The moves are part of the NHS drive to find 20bn efficiency savings by 2015. The government said performance should be measured by outcomes not numbers.

    Surgeons have described the delays faced by patients as "devastating and cruel". Peter Kay, the president of the British Orthopaedic Association (BOA), says they've become increasingly frustrated that hip and knee replacements are being targeted as a way of finding savings. GPs were told not so send as many patients to hospital, maybe to delay referrals until the end of the financial year while perhaps introducing thresholds for surgery.

    Overall, 692 surgeons in England sent the BBC information about the policy on hip and knee replacement of their local Primary Care Trust (PCT). Between them they covered the majority of PCTs in England. 106 surgeons told the BBC routine operations had been put on hold in their area. Others described new limits on when patients qualify for hip or knee replacements. 152 specialists said patients now have to be more disabled or in greater pain, and 118 told us hip and knee surgery had been regarded as a procedure of low priority.

    A number of PCTs have been explicit about their decisions to put all routine operations on hold for several months up to April to help balance their budgets by the end of the financial year. They include Warrington, Sheffield, Eastern and Coastal Kent, Bury and Warwickshire. Alex Waring, a patient in Warwickshire, was told he was being referred for an urgent knee replacement in August of last year. Now he looks at that letter with bewilderment as more than seven months later he is still waiting for surgery. Mr Waring has already had one successful knee replacement and says he is in daily pain waiting for this second operation. "It's excruciating sometimes to put it mildly. And it affects you at the times when you're not expecting it. I get off my mobile scooter and nearly fall over because my knee is gone, the pain, you've to sit there until the pain just goes away."

    Putting routine operations on hold means that GPs simply stop referring their patients for surgery. So although a patient might be waiting longer, this isn't recorded in the official waiting statistics. Another way of adding invisible waiting time into the system is to implement stricter new criteria which have the effect of delaying the point when a patient can be referred for treatment. An investigation by the BBC also found evidence in many PCT board papers of new thresholds being added for hip and knee replacements.
    rationing, anyone?

    govt run health care?

    remember donald berwick, obama's health czar?

    he's an open proponent of the nhs, favors rationing, and sees health care as a means of "redistribution," which is only "just, equitable, civilized and humane"

    YouTube - Donald Berwick on Redistributing Wealth
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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The dismantling begins.....


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    More's the pitty. More needs to be done, not less.

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    More's the pitty.
    dept chair, huh?

    LOL!

    how's that single payer in britain working out

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    The Boo two step....


    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    The only person dancing is you. You've been asked a question and you refuse to answer, showing you really don't want to discuss anything. you must be very unsire of yourself.
    Obama is NOT 50 feet tall, he is ONE inch deep.
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