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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    And you will have them once the reform is inacted. Prior to that, logic is required. It is not wrong or improper to think.

    And yes, 20 somethings to wrongly believe they are invinciable. And when things go wrong for them, we pay. This is why republicans, conservatives, orginally wanted to mandate that they buy insurances. Back then, they believed in personal responsibility.
    yeah Nancy, we know. We have to wait for it to be enacted before we will know how much it will screw us.

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It's logic. If more are insured, then there is less reason for hospitals to raise prices, which means there is less reason for insurance companies to raise prices. If they are doing so, they are doing so to try and gouge people. And will we have the ability to track it it better now.

    Not only that, paying a premium for more people is much less expensive than paying for the uninsured as they recieve treatment uninsured. Cost evenly distributed among many is much less expensive than cost distributed ad hock and to only those who pay. Remember we actually have people right now who can afford insurance who are not doing so, leaving the cost of their injuries and illness up to others to pay. Having them insured along decreases costs.
    It would also be a lot less expensive if we got the illegal alien problem under control and created more doctors. How do you explain the increase in ER usage in MA by insured people because they cannot get into seeing a doctor?

    As I have stated over and over again this is all about access to you and not about improved quality or quantiy of healthcare. There is no govt program that has ever cut costs and have always cost more than intended. Interesting that liberals have an arrogance that seems to believe the last group of liberals just didn't do it right and that this group can correct the problem. That has never happened.

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    It's logic eh ??? Sorry, but I prefer hard numbers to your "logic".

    I'd be willing to bet you that the vast majority of young people just out of college will decide to skip the mandated insurance coverage. Most 20 somethings believe they are superhuman and would rather buy a flat screen tv than pay for insurance they don't want believe they need.
    Or just prove you are an Obama supporter and get a waiver!

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    yeah Nancy, we know. We have to wait for it to be enacted before we will know how much it will screw us.
    Again, don't be stupid. We know what is in it. And we know the projections. But actual hard numbers can't be measured until it is in progress.

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by tryreading View Post
    There is also a lot of waste and theft in the private health insurance system.
    on march first THE GAO reported that the federal budget flat out MISPLACES a full HALF TRILLION dollars in waste, fraud, duplication and corruption in inefficient and overlapping programs that have NEVER BEEN REVIEWED FOR THEIR EFFECTIVENESS

    GAO Finds Massive Waste, Duplication - FoxBusiness.com

    no wonder WEINER and more than a thousand others want WAIVERS while CUOMO and MOONBEAM are slashing AND burning to the tune of TENS OF B's

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    in an ad hock, way with no real oversight.
    dept chair, huh?

    LOL!

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    repeating things not in dispute is pointless on your part.
    well, i don't know if it's pointless

    but you're right, there's no dispute

    three quarters of a tril in new taxes, half tril cuts to medicare while massively expanding it, quarter tril unfunded burden on states already bankrupt, increased er costs, doctors refusing new medicare patients, americans with NO INSURANCE faring better medically than those on medicaid, quarter tril doc fix offline, quarter tril double counted according to cbo, more than a thousand WAIVED, americans caught breathing without coverage criminalized...

    Many of those wanting repeal want it BECAUSE the bill doesn't go far enough. They want more, not less.
    not WEINER

    not NEW YORK CITY

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    In the end, we pay less for more.
    exactly backwards

    3/4 of a tril in new taxes

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    doctors coast to coast refuse treatement

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You lose no freedom at all.
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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    your side does everything it can to poison real discussion on this topic.
    posting LINKS from cbo's website and hhs' homepage is poisoning the debate?

    LOL!

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