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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Amazed View Post
    You don't really want to get into the Health Care Debate with me.....you like every other Lefty have NO idea whats in it.
    And you do?

    Now, back to what you have before you. Just try sticking with that.

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Amazed View Post
    you like every other Lefty have NO idea whats in it.
    the cbo, wapo, the globe, the times, the hill, bloomberg and hhs do

    3/4 of a tril in new taxes

    Director's Blog Ľ Blog Archive Ľ Additional Information on CBO’s Preliminary Analysis of H.R. 2

    half trillion in cuts to medicare, all the while obama simultaneously expands its already teetering enrollment by millions

    Capitol Briefing - Senate votes to keep Medicare cuts

    er costs increase

    ER visits, costs in Mass. climb - The Boston Globe

    doctors refuse new medicare patients

    Finding a Doctor Who Accepts Medicare Isnít Easy - NYTimes.com

    the doc fix passes, another quarter tril unaccounted for

    Senate passes 1-year doc fix - The Hill's Healthwatch

    another quarter T double counted

    Budget Office Rebuts Democratic Claims on Medicare (Update1) - Bloomberg

    our already broken backed states are burdened with 200 billion in the form of brand new medicaid enrollees

    Governors balk over what healthcare bill will cost states - The Boston Globe

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Why yes, yes I do.....

    Do you get to keep your policy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    And you do?

    Now, back to what you have before you. Just try sticking with that.
    Obama is NOT 50 feet tall, he is ONE inch deep.
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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    You aren't going to get either

    We don't want it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    you do realize that isn't what I said? The forcing wasn't through votes, but through misinformation and fearmongering that led to lack of public support. Congress is especially subject to public outcry. It cost a lot to get this watered down version, and would ahve cost far more to do more.
    Obama is NOT 50 feet tall, he is ONE inch deep.
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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    yesterday:

    Health care lobbyists and advocates are bracing for six pages of the health care reform law to explode into a phonebook-sized federal regulation when the Department of Health and Human Services releases its long-delayed accountable care organization rule expected this week.

    “What, you expected less than a thousand pages for legislation that only took a page and half?” a staffer with one of the current proto-ACOs asked.

    The staffer exaggerated; the Affordable Care Act devoted about six pages, not one and a half, to the accountable care organizations — networks of hospitals and doctors that are supposed to drive down costs and improve care by sharing responsibility for patients. A senior administration official said the rule is not a thousand pages, but he declined to say how many pages it is.

    How do you turn six pages of legislation into hundreds of pages of rules? You kind of have to, in order to settle all of the questions that hospitals and doctors want settled so they don’t get into trouble.

    They have to know who can become an accountable care organization – a formula that could be different in different parts of the country – and how you’d know if the organization actually saved money. They’d need to know how to report what they’re doing. And they need to know how to join together without breaking the antitrust laws that are already on the books.

    At one point, Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services administrator Don Berwick had suggested the rules would be out by Jan. 15. HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, who had promised that the regulations would be out by the end of March, said last week that they’d be out “in the next couple weeks.”

    The silence has left room for plenty of speculation. Several industry sources have told POLITICO that they’re expecting at least 1,000 pages of regulations to emerge from the process.
    1,000+ pages of health-care rules? - David Nather and J. Lester Feder - POLITICO.com

    well, that sounds EFFICIENT

    LOL!

    and ahab obama promised his prime payfor for this pig would be from W-F-A

    no wonder WEINER wants OUT
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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Amazed View Post
    You aren't going to get either

    We don't want it.
    Who's we? you'll find the nation quite divided. Some who oppose this reform oppose it because it didn't go far enough, almost as many as who oppose it because it went to far.

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Who's we?
    LOL!

    we are the american people, silly

    we aren't gonna get your little fantasy single payer because THE PRESIDENT SHOT HIS WAD

    obamacare's as far as he's gonna go, and obamacare's a LOSER

    it's JOHN BOEHNER'S HOUSE now, haven't you heard

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    it went to far
    dept chair, huh?

    LOL!

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Because fear mongering did not allow an honest discussion, or allow us to actually tackle the problem effectively. One step forward is better than no step at all.
    No it is not when it will bankrupt states

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    Re: Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Real reform I would hope.
    You mean you want universal healthcare. It does not work. Government should not run healthcare

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