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    Re: It's goning to get ugly in Eqypt!

    Quote Originally Posted by TheHat View Post
    Be careful what you wish for.

    We back these people, b/c the alternative to them is far worse.

    As we will soon see in Egypt.

    Welcome to Iran 1979 part 2.

    Islamic fundamentalism is at the Egyptian doorstep. And your gonna cheer it on?

    The Muslim Brotherhood is evil and terrorist related.
    So you think we should support Mubarak and to hell with the people and democracy?

    Didn't we just spend a trillion dollars and thousands of lives to liberate a country and spread democracy?
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    Re: It's goning to get ugly in Eqypt!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    So you think we should support Mubarak and to hell with the people?
    When the alternative is another Islamic Fundamentalist state?

    Hell yes. You do realize the Islamic fundementalist movement views Egypt as a very significant play in their quests don't you? Who was it that tried to assissinate Mubark back in the 90s? You don't think those same people are doing this thing now?

    There is more at play here then what is being told in the press.

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    Re: It's goning to get ugly in Eqypt!

    Quote Originally Posted by TheHat View Post
    When the alternative is another Islamic Fundamentalist state?

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    So democracy doesn't work for Muslims? Maybe someone should have told George that before he liberated Iraq.

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    Re: It's goning to get ugly in Eqypt!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    So you believe the US putting our own dictator in power in Iran was a good thing? The people would have risen up against the Soviet puppet probably sooner than they did with the Shah. At that time we would not be their enemy. Like we are now. The Soviets would be.
    The US manipulating other governments doesn't work. US installing and supporting dictators doesn't work.
    Maybe. Then again, maybe not. If they had, the Soviets had an obvious track record of sending Soviet military support to quel the uprising. Look at Hungary and Afghanistan.

    There's a question here that you're missing: how much damage could a Soviet controlled Middle East have done to the world scene?

    You have to understand the school of thought that existed among the allies in 1953--just 8 years since the end of WW2. They were waiting around for the third world war to start. The priority, at that time, was to prevent the Soviets from having the upper hand, when that day came and in 1953, "that day", was just around the corner.

    A third world war would have bit us in the ass alot harder than this current silly bull**** is doing.
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    Re: It's goning to get ugly in Eqypt!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    So democracy doesn't work for Muslims? Maybe someone should have told George that before he liberated Iraq.
    What democracy? The same democracy that exists in Iran?
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    Re: It's goning to get ugly in Eqypt!

    Quote Originally Posted by TheHat View Post
    Be careful what you wish for.

    We back these people, b/c the alternative to them is far worse.

    As we will soon see in Egypt.

    Welcome to Iran 1979 part 2.

    Islamic fundamentalism is at the Egyptian doorstep. And your gonna cheer it on?

    The Muslim Brotherhood is evil and terrorist related.
    I strongly disagree. The reason Iran 1979 happened in the first place is because we stuck our nose in their business in 1953, overthrew a democratically elected president, and installed a tyrant in his place.

    The revolt in Egypt, at this time, is not being carried on by Islamic fundamentalists, but by the educated, and by workers. If we attempt, in the slightest, to keep Mubarak in place, or to replace him with a ruler who has a different name, but keeps the same repressive policies in place, then we will become another classic case of a nation doomed to repeat history because we failed to heed it.
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    Re: It's goning to get ugly in Eqypt!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    So democracy doesn't work for Muslims? Maybe someone should have told George that before he liberated Iraq.
    So like your avatar you only see things in black and white?

    We can and should promote democracy. We can and should take a principled stand with anyone we side with. that DOESNT mean we embrace the violent overthrow of ANYONE. thats not democracy. But then...you KNOW that.

    Anyone that doesnt see what is facing Egypt is either foolish or blind. And anyone that thinks the violent overthrow of the Egyptian government stands to put Islamic extremists in power..well...you arent a very good student of history.

    BUT...lets do this... for everyone that thinks we should support this 'democracy'...when **** turns really really ugly...yep...thats right...you own it.

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    Re: It's goning to get ugly in Eqypt!

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I strongly disagree. The reason Iran 1979 happened in the first place is because we stuck our nose in their business in 1953, overthrew a democratically elected president, and installed a tyrant in his place.
    Sorry, but there's no way that you know that that's why the rebellion of '79 took place.

    The revolt in Egypt, at this time, is not being carried on by Islamic fundamentalists, but by the educated, and by workers. If we attempt, in the slightest, to keep Mubarak in place, or to replace him with a ruler who has a different name, but keeps the same repressive policies in place, then we will become another classic case of a nation doomed to repeat history because we failed to heed it.
    Well, that's exactly what happened in Iran in '79.

    You like to brag about how you're a real Conservative; well, real Conservatives don't drink the kool-aid.

    On November 4, 1979, radical Iranian students seized the United States Embassy complex in the Iranian capital of Tehran.

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    Re: It's goning to get ugly in Eqypt!

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    So like your avatar you only see things in black and white?

    We can and should promote democracy. We can and should take a principled stand with anyone we side with. that DOESNT mean we embrace the violent overthrow of ANYONE. thats not democracy. But then...you KNOW that.

    Anyone that doesnt see what is facing Egypt is either foolish or blind. And anyone that thinks the violent overthrow of the Egyptian government stands to put Islamic extremists in power..well...you arent a very good student of history.

    BUT...lets do this... for everyone that thinks we should support this 'democracy'...when **** turns really really ugly...yep...thats right...you own it.
    Yeah!...but...but...but...this is different!
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    Re: It's goning to get ugly in Eqypt!

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yeah!...but...but...but...this is different!
    Of course it is...they havent been told yet how to think by the adminstration and thats frustrating as HELL...gotta defend him...dont know what to defend...crap...

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