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    Republicans want a return to workplace immigration raids

    Immigration: Republicans call on Obama administration to return to workplace raids - latimes.com

    Deportations of illegal immigrants have reached new heights for two years running under President Obama, statistics show, but Republicans say they'll use their new majority in the House to press for more aggressive enforcement without any path to legal status.
    What really surprises me is to find out how off all the anti-immigrant ranting seems to have been. The article goes on and presents some information that I was unaware of previously.

    Some of the large-scale raids launched in 2007 and 2008 cost taxpayers upward of $10 million, said one former law enforcement official who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the debate.
    Each deportation costs the federal government about $12,500, Immigration and Customs Enforcement Deputy Director Kumar Kibble told lawmakers Wednesday.
    Under Obama, cases against employers are up sharply: Immigration and Customs Enforcement quadrupled the number of employer audits after Obama took office, increasing the number of inspections and arrests against those who knowingly hire illegal immigrants. Businesses were fined $6.9 million in fiscal 2010, up from $675,000 in 2008.

    The debate over immigration enforcement comes at a time when the administration has hired more Border Patrol agents and deployed 1,200 National Guard troops to the U.S.-Mexico border over the summer to bolster efforts to stop illegal entry.

    The Obama administration deported 392,862 illegal immigrants in fiscal 2010, according to ICE figures, a 6% increase over the 369,221 removed from the country in 2008.

    More than 195,000 criminals were deported in 2010, a 70% increase over 2008 in the forced removal of immigrant criminals.
    It seems this administration HAS been having more success with fewer raids, and also more success than the previous administration
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    Re: Republicans want a return to workplace immigration raids

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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Republicans want a return to workplace immigration raids

    Definitely something I can reside with the president on....you're going to save that 12,500 easily over the next year. **** one or two treatments in the ER would be close. Getting a majority of them out would be a slow but good jump start for the economy overtime.

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    Re: Republicans want a return to workplace immigration raids

    It has been the law of the land for many years that to hire an illegal alien is a crime and yet is has gone largely ignored, and it's about time that some teeth be put in the law ans extend it to cover those elected to office who fail to uphold their oath for allowing their City to be as Sanctuary such as San Diego, L.A., and San Francisco and any others.

    The law should give each of these people 30 days to comply with and Enforce Federal law or face a minimum of 3 years in Federal Prison removal from office and be stripped as all Felons are of all the rights to vote own a gun etc.

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    Take away their ability to get legitimate jobs with phony or stolen social security numbers. The SSA and IRS are all too well aware of multiple people using a single social security number. One lady from California had 81 people in 17 states using hers and this isn't a unique story. With modern computer databases, it wouldn't be hard to pluck out all the duplicate or non issued users excepting the original issuee. Then send notices to their employers the duplicate users payments are coming from that there appears to be an error and they must verify the social security number within 30 days or face massive fines and jail time. Enforcement had a ripple effect back in 2006 when IFCO (wooden palette maker) got caught in a Government sting. A local area electronics maker fired 88 employees that couldn't produce a valid SSN and they weren't under scrutiny by ICE. The jobs were quickly filled with citizens. E-Verify must become manditory, no exceptions and used to verify citizenship for any government benefits. Take away their ability to get legitimate jobs with forged paperwork and they will go home on their own.

    This is a simple cost effective way to open up several million existing jobs to citizens out of work. It will also save Billions in Government benefits going to those who circumvented the legal immigration process.

    ...Arrests from worksite raids for immigration-related offenses, such as using a forged driver's license or a fake Social Security number, have dropped by 70% since the end of the Bush administration, when a series of large raids of factories and meatpacking plants received national media attention.

    With unemployment over 9%, "it is hard to imagine a worse time to cut worksite enforcement efforts by more than half," Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas), chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, said Wednesday. "Citizens and legal immigrants should not be forced to compete with illegal workers for jobs."

    Immigration: Republicans call on Obama administration to return to workplace raids - latimes.com
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    Re: Republicans want a return to workplace immigration raids

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    It has been the law of the land for many years that to hire an illegal alien is a crime and yet is has gone largely ignored, and it's about time that some teeth be put in the law ans extend it to cover those elected to office who fail to uphold their oath for allowing their City to be as Sanctuary such as San Diego, L.A., and San Francisco and any others.

    The law should give each of these people 30 days to comply with and Enforce Federal law or face a minimum of 3 years in Federal Prison removal from office and be stripped as all Felons are of all the rights to vote own a gun etc.
    This ^^^^

    I cannot support enough ICE raids and holding company's / corporations responsible and fining them heavily for hiring illegals. If I had my way, I'd fine company's who knowingly hire illegals $1M per illegal, and tack it onto their IRS taxes for the rest of their lives. Of course, I'd post a public notice 90 days before hand, with a short bio on all the officers who will be carrying out the raid, just to show how fair and serious I'd be in carrying it out.
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    Re: Republicans want a return to workplace immigration raids

    I have no problem with this, it not only hurts Americans but also the illegals. They are getting screwed out of an American wage, and these companies are doing nothing more then ripping us all off, and pocketing the savings brought on by illegal work.
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    Re: Republicans want a return to workplace immigration raids

    If the Obama admin's method is more effective, than thats what we should be doing. Especially if its cheaper.

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    Re: Republicans want a return to workplace immigration raids

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    If the Obama admin's method is more effective, than thats what we should be doing. Especially if its cheaper.
    See, I'm in a different spot. I say make this a federal revenue generator, instead of something we as a country position as a "savings".
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    Re: Republicans want a return to workplace immigration raids

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    See, I'm in a different spot. I say make this a federal revenue generator, instead of something we as a country position as a "savings".
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