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    Re: Arab world's fair demands cannot be ignored, says Turkish FM

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Democracy is an exclusively western concept.
    As imperfect as some democracies are around the world, and the fact they're a little different, this assertion is wrong.

    Our Western Concept of democracy is exclusive to us, perhaps. But even the democracies of Europe, Canada and America do have their differences.

    South Africa is a democracy, South Korea, Japan, Brazil...

    Yep, just "western" countries right...

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    Re: Arab world's fair demands cannot be ignored, says Turkish FM

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Why do eurocentrists think that the non-Western peoples of the world want democracy?
    If Egyptians don't want democracy, then why are they protesting for it? Their signs call for democratic elections, not for a better dictator than Mubarak.

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo
    Democracy is an exclusively western concept.
    Tell that to all the people in India, Southern Africa, and East Asia who live in the green areas of this map.

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    Re: Arab world's fair demands cannot be ignored, says Turkish FM

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    As imperfect as some democracies are around the world, and the fact they're a little different, this assertion is wrong.

    Our Western Concept of democracy is exclusive to us, perhaps. But even the democracies of Europe, Canada and America do have their differences.

    South Africa is a democracy, South Korea, Japan, Brazil...

    Yep, just "western" countries right...
    Democracy in all of those countries is the result of Western colonialism or domination. No exceptions. As western power receds on the world stage, democracy is being rolled back. Look at what happened in Lebanon within the last two weeks. Hezbollah, Iran's agent, has just installed a new prime minister. Is this democracy? Hamas was elected and took power in Gaza, and has refused to hold subsequent elections in which it might lose power. Wishful thinking about democracy doesn't change the fact that it is being rolled back worldwide.

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    Re: Arab world's fair demands cannot be ignored, says Turkish FM

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    If Egyptians don't want democracy, then why are they protesting for it? Their signs call for democratic elections, not for a better dictator than Mubarak.



    Tell that to all the people in India, Southern Africa, and East Asia who live in the green areas of this map.

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    Re: Arab world's fair demands cannot be ignored, says Turkish FM

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Umm OK. Grats on finding an article from 4 years ago about how the Arab world was rolling back democratic reforms at the time. They now appear to be moving in the opposite direction. Did you have a point?
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    Re: Arab world's fair demands cannot be ignored, says Turkish FM

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Umm OK. Grats on finding an article from 4 years ago about how the Arab world was rolling back democratic reforms at the time. They now appear to be moving in the opposite direction. Did you have a point?
    Yeah. Democracy ain't gonna happen in Egypt because the Muslim Brotherhood is going to be the winner when the dust settles. There may be one election. But that will be the end of it. Hoping for a miracle is not a policy. It is blind faith. Game over.

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