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    Loughner researched lethal injection before Tucson shooting, sources say

    It looks like it might be a little hard for him to weasel out of his punishment by claiming to be a wacko.
    Loughner researched lethal injection before Tucson shooting, sources say
    TUCSON - In the days and weeks before the shooting rampage in Tucson, Jared Lee Loughner surfed the Internet on his home computer in what investigators believe was preparation for his alleged assassination attempt, law enforcement sources familiar with the investigation said.

    The suspect's focus on several Web sites - covering lethal injection, solitary confinement and political assassinations - could have dramatic implications as prosecutors build their case against him on federal murder charges that could carry the death penalty. They hope to use the computer information, along with notes seized in Loughner's home, to show that his acts were premeditated and that he knew right from wrong, the sources said.

    The computer analysis, which was completed last week, was turned over to Loughner's attorney Judy Clarke at a court hearing last week, along with notes from 250 interviews. Clarke, who has also represented Unabomber Ted Kaczynski and other high-profile defendants, did not indicate whether she intends to pursue an insanity defense.
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    Re: Loughner researched lethal injection before Tucson shooting, sources say

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    It looks like it might be a little hard for him to weasel out of his punishment by claiming to be a wacko.
    I think the key here is that insane in the legal definition isn't exactly the same thing as insane in the scientific/psychological sense. There are sociopaths and crazy ****ers who are totally intelligent and mentally capable of planning out their actions. That doesn't make them any less crazy in a clinical sense though, take DC Sniper John Allen Muhammad for example. I had to live thru that crazy shooting spree as a middle schooler.
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    Re: Loughner researched lethal injection before Tucson shooting, sources say

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I think the key here is that insane in the legal definition isn't exactly the same thing as insane in the scientific/psychological sense. There are sociopaths and crazy ****ers who are totally intelligent and mentally capable of planning out their actions. That doesn't make them any less crazy in a clinical sense though, take DC Sniper John Allen Muhammad for example. I had to live thru that crazy shooting spree as a middle schooler.
    We don't care about crazy in the clinical sense. The only that that matters is the legal standard.

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    Re: Loughner researched lethal injection before Tucson shooting, sources say

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    We don't care about crazy in the clinical sense. The only that that matters is the legal standard.

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    Unless you're talking about gun laws and preventing people who are actually crazy from getting guns. But if you are just talking about his trial then yeah I guess the Legal definition prevails.

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